Character Creation Cast

Series 40.1 - Phoenix Dawn Command with Neal Powell (Creation)

Episode Summary

Welcome to the first episode of series 40, everyone! This series we welcome Neal Powell, co-host from DMNastics, Dungeon Master’s Block and Whelmed: The Young Justice Files, to talk about Phoenix Dawn Command, a card based, fantasy TTRPG by Keith Baker that is all about coming back from death stronger than before. This episode, we learn about the game and begin creating our characters!

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Welcome to the first episode of series 40, everyone! This series we welcome Neal Powell, co-host from DMNastics, Dungeon Master’s Block and Whelmed: The Young Justice Files, to talk about Phoenix Dawn Command, a card based, fantasy TTRPG by Keith Baker that is all about coming back from death stronger than before. This episode, we learn about the game and begin creating our characters!


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Amelia Antrim  0:00  

Welcome to series 40. Everyone. We hope you had a good couple of weeks off, but we are back the way you wrote that Ryan makes it sound like we're back to ruin your good couple of days off. But here we are. We've got a fantastic series with Neil Powell returning after 39 series is is to discuss a game that he loves Phoenix dawn command. But before all of that as usual announcements. First


Ryan Boelter  0:31  

up, chi Mira is still up for sale on the edge page. If you enjoyed the last series, definitely check it out at play kimera games, but also my streamed campaign, A Tale of twinklin all has its finale lined up to stream live this Friday, at 7:30pm Central time, we should be able to finish in a couple of hours. But likely it'll go a little long. But we really hope you'll all be able to join us for the fun. Currently, our heroes just finished learning some very surprising stuff from the spirit of the world they live on. And the evil capitalists are in hot pursuit to steal the magic that that spirit possesses. So I'm really excited to see how it panned out.


Amelia Antrim  1:16  

Is there a page on twitch? Or do you have a YouTube page where people could catch up if they haven't before


Ryan Boelter  1:21  

you can go to twitch compare that games and actually see the entire backlog? If you so chose?


Amelia Antrim  1:28  

Awesome then people can catch up in case they've they've missed it and they want to watch the finale last


Ryan Boelter  1:32  

time The time is now.


Amelia Antrim  1:36  

Or is it as we were just discussing before we started this recording maybe later


Ryan Boelter  1:42  

it might be later in the finale will also be there but you can experience it live if you so choose.


Amelia Antrim  1:49  

Another announcement is that we are in the final few hours of the You are the dungeon Kickstarter. If you're listening on the day that this episode comes out, you can head over to the Kickstarter, you can smash the pledge button or gently just boop it whatever. It's up to you. You can get yourself a copy. It is a fantastic game. I'm very very excited about it. If you've already pledged and haven't checked back in a while they did unlock the physical tarot deck goal. So you can change your pledge level. upgrade that and get a physical copy of the Tarot deck that game really is designing for this specific game. I'm really excited to get my physical copy of it. I'm so stoked. Me too.


Ryan Boelter  2:32  

Yeah, that's really cool. Another one that we want to talk about is careers call Season Two Kickstarter is going strong right now they are in the last few days. As of the release of this episode. They've actually smashed past all of their stretch goals already. And so it's it's really a great time to jump in and get in on the action. Season One was a blast season two sounds like it's gonna be phenomenal. It's gonna actually include in adran prom. Like, yeah, like how can you not love that?


Amelia Antrim  3:06  

I was trying to explain to the kids like, because Nate's backing you when the Kickstarter is coming. So we backed the Kickstarter, and I was like, Nate, we did it. And then I was like, oh, we're so close to Adrien prom. And he's like, I don't know what promise. Oh, no, like explained prom, so I think I might be more excited for adran prom than he is. But that doesn't matter. He'll be excited about the rest of it. And this thing can be for me. It's for adults, too. Think that is everything for now. We hope you enjoy Phoenix dawn command. We recorded this actually before our Chi mera series. So it's been a while since we've even experienced this ourselves. But I remember it being so much fun. And we can't wait for you to experience it right now. As usual, you can stay tuned after the show for our call to action, but for now, please enjoy the episode.


Ryan Boelter  4:33  

Welcome to Character Creation Cast a show where we discussed and create characters The best part of role playing games with guests using their favorite systems. I'm one of your hosts Ryan, and this episode my co host Amelia and I are excited to welcome back. Neil Powell, co host of diagnostics and whelmed The Young Justice files to discuss Phoenix dawn command. A card based RPG designed by Keith Baker, and Dan garrison.


Amelia Antrim  5:01  

Neil, welcome to Character Creation Cast. You're back. We're excited to have you.


Neal Powell  5:07  

I'm very, very excited. It's been 40. So because I was here for the first one, so I'm very, very happy to be back. Especially because we're talking about Phoenix dog cabana? Absolutely.


Amelia Antrim  5:19  

Yes. I'm really excited about this to be it's such a fun game. It's been quite a while since you were on all the way back in series one when we were just baby podcasters. Do you want to remind everybody what you're up to where they can find you all that kind


Neal Powell  5:36  

of stuff? Definitely. Yes. So I still talk about d&d fifth edition anymore. It's just d&d in general. But if you go to your pod catcher of choice, which I like saying this everywhere I can, in my mind, that's like a, an entity, like it's an actual pod catcher, like with a net, anyone out there and catching them format. But if you go, you can look up dungeon Master's block that and you'll hear my voice there. Or dm Gnostics where you can hear Celeste Kondo, which and I have practical ideas on how to just work out those mental mental muscles. And of course, whelmed The Young Justice files, we're starting to ramp that back up after a short hiatus. And we have a lot of really interesting guests on the way for that. I also did a Kickstarter, I guess, since last time, called The Ultimate Guide to hair have fifth edition supplement to die for? Oh, yeah. And so that's actually fulfilled. And if you really wanted it, you could go to drive thru RPG where you could get the PDF, and we're trying to get the physical copy approved for public public consumption, if


Ryan Boelter  6:45  

you will. Very nice.


Unknown Speaker  6:47  

Very cool. Awesome.


Ryan Boelter  6:48  

Well, let's go ahead and get into this. And we will start by discussing what this game is all about what's in a game?


Amelia Antrim  6:56  

All right, let's start with the setting. What is the setting for Phoenix dawn command.


Neal Powell  7:03  

So it's, in some ways, I want to say it's a fairly traditional RPG setting. And in a lot of ways, it's more, it's the tools to build a traditional RPG setting in the way that you want to. So as we noted before, Keith Baker is there. So he was the person that had created everon. And there's some serious everyone feels in that the day. So the big thing with the everon is that there's the day of mourning, where basically there's this 100 year war, something, something happens. And it's key that I say it that way, and a whole continent just kind of disappears. And nobody knows why that happened. Something very similar is here, in that a nebulous, bad known as the dread has taken over a third of the world in the past three years. And the dread encompasses everything that you want it or need it to be, is it undead? Is it skin changers, there's the chant, which basically takes over the minds of entire areas when they hear it. And then of course, the flip side is that you are Phoenix is someone that has died, a glorious, or at least extraordinary death, and you have come back, and you are the last bastion of hope to stop the dread. There's a lot more lore, you both have the book, you know, there's a lot more. That's the very basic premise behind it


Ryan Boelter  8:27  

as a very big book, too. So yeah. So what tools do we need to play this game, then? Your imagination? So


Amelia Antrim  8:38  

thank you for that. So the biggest thing is, friends also. Friends, well, people, you know, people willing to play a game with you.


Neal Powell  8:49  

Yes, not as many as you would think, though we can, we'll get into that, because I've played this in a lot of different sized groups. But one of the biggest things is you You do have to buy Phoenix dawn command. It's a box set, because one of the biggest differences with this RPG is that you have cards. In a lot of ways. It's a pseudo deck builder, but we were talking beforehand, one of the biggest things is that it's more like taking spell cards from d&d or other systems and just doing that with your entire character. Because even your class card ends up being like representative of where you are on the map, if you will. So like if, if our all three of our characters were lined up next to each other, all three of us would put our character card next to each other. And then you would have the the person we're facing or the NPC and you could lay that card there that can give basic representation of where we are in space.


Amelia Antrim  9:49  

initiative and stuff too. Don't you like in like combat some stuff like you move or like you put cards in certain places, or am I totally I'm saying these things and I'm


Neal Powell  9:58  

like, No, no It actually gets even, both more and less complicated. And it's one of the really interesting things about the game. I don't I, I have so much knowledge, I never know when to share it. Feel free whenever. So initiative is amazing. And that's where it goes back to I've played this with just two people. So myself and someone else, because one of the things about the enemy cards is that it's based on speed. And the speed rating is just how many player turns are taken before the enemy turn happens. So then it so if there were so the basic concept would be, let's say that the enemy has a speed of two, if there were two characters


Amelia Antrim  10:43  

down here. So that's this the strength in the back facing you. It'll say speed. Oh, look that there's all kinds of info on the back of it. This is such a great podcast.


Neal Powell  10:56  

But basically, if it has a speed of two, two characters would go and then the enemy would, if you had. So if you think of a whole round, if you will, that in there were four characters, the enemy would end up going twice in that round as you cycle through the four characters. So it was really, like I said, it was really interesting to play with just two people, because fundamentally, all the concepts work. No matter no matter how you were approaching that. Yeah. So all that to say, you really just have to buy the box to play the game. Because as the cards that you need, it has the giant tome. I switched in the PDF, because it's it's a very big book.


Amelia Antrim  11:35  

Yeah. Yeah, we were talking about that earlier to it. Because it all comes in a box. And it has cards. I've played this game before. And when I opened up the box, I was like this, this book is huge. Because in my brain, it was like it comes in a box must be a board game. It's a box. It has cards. It's a board game. And then it's got this like, giant book. And then it was like, Oh, no, RPGs have giant books. That's fine. But like, for some reason, because it wasn't a box. That meant the book was too big. I was like, I couldn't match those concepts together.


Neal Powell  12:09  

Why? Cuz I always story like, I mean, I want to point over because my closet with games is in there. And that's, that's usually where it goes up there with the other games. And so like you said, it's got cards, it's got tokens, and then it has a giant tome.


Amelia Antrim  12:21  

Yeah, well, I have a, an RPG shelf. And then I have a board game shelf. And this one was on the board game shelf, because it's in a box. So a star crossed, and it's in a box. So what kind of stories and themes? Is this game meant to explore?


Neal Powell  12:40  

That is probably the toughest question you have for me thus far, because one of the things is I think from Okay, we'll go stories, and we'll go themes, and maybe I'll do a good job. So one of the stories is that, again, you have this overwhelming dread in the past three years, it's taken over a third of the known world. And you have these phoenixes, who long ago, they were just prevalent everywhere, then they basically tried to rule the world with an iron fist. And were basically secluded off to an island. And now there's not as many but they're trying to come back and help save the world, a world that doesn't necessarily believe they're real anymore, because they've been gone for so long. So from that perspective, I think it's again, it's, you can do some pretty standard RPG stories from that lens, because again, anything you want to be in the dread is in the dread. But what I think is one of the really interesting things, and the reason like I love character creation for this is that the themes you get to explore through that process are really deep about both the character and and end up being really deep about you, and how you're approaching that because the whole conceit is like you have to have died at least once to start, and you're gonna die again, to level up like that's the level of mechanic his death. And it's how did that death happen? And what do you look like, after the trials of that death? Like the, again, the stories end up being some classic RPG stuff with that element of just deep, deep introspection on like, who your character is, and why they're making the choices that they're making. Mm hmm.


Ryan Boelter  14:20  

So then what do characters actually do in the game then?


Neal Powell  14:23  

They are epic. Because, because you started out as just a normal, normal person in the world. I mean, one of the examples is literally like farmer, soldier child, like you could have just been a child. And for whatever reason, it was, some of it makes me and this is not. This is a very thin analogy, but it kind of makes me think of how man I've connected dots in a weird way in my head. What's the groundhog day movie with Tom Cruise? Where he where he died? He's a soul. During he dies, but he gets the


Ryan Boelter  15:04  

cash but they change the name they do twice the name is Ko, don't think I won't I'll do it.


Ryan Boelter  15:19  

Edge of Tomorrow after tomorrow. That's right.


Neal Powell  15:22  

But then they changed his name to something else that really threw me off. But it's that same, it's that same kind of concept like you're but even to the nth degree because now you're you can do things that no normal human could even dream of. And as you continue to progress, the you become much, much stronger. But the other thing is that you only have seven chances for that to happen. Yeah. So after that 7/7 death, that character is just gone. But it is also the level of mechanics. So then you do you need to just get farther and farther out to that edge. As you get more and more powerful. Oh, goodness. So yeah, basically, they can do and will do things that no one else could do.


Ryan Boelter  16:05  

That's very cool.


Amelia Antrim  16:06  

So our next question is, what is unique about this game, I think the level up mechanic is one of them. And the way that like, this is one of the first games I played where the, like progression mechanic and story tie so neatly together. And it's become a thing that like, since then I have really, really wanted in games, and been really frustrated when they when it's just like, you get some XP, and you can buy whatever you want with it. Whereas this one, it's like, they are directly tied to what happens in the game. So I think that's one of the biggest, like, unique pieces. What do you know, I


Neal Powell  16:52  

wholeheartedly agree, because one of the things I mean, a very common d&d thing is that I, I or someone would know like, this is my thought of what my character progression would be over the next 20 levels. And I wrapped that out in my mind. Maybe I've even mapped it out on d&d beyond and I just click back and forth through my levels or things like that. But one of the things about it is that it's, it's based on the death that happens in game. So there's, there's theoretically, no real I mean, you could choose to do something in that moment to gain the depth that you're you're hoping for. But you could also die in a way that you weren't expecting, that would then dictate in a brand new way, what you're adding into your character, because these are the things that are actually happening to your character. Refer, if you will, your first death is always the most important because it is what defines you as originally coming back as a Phoenix. But then what's happening with you and the other people in play is defining what's happening going forward. So I want that of course carts, right. So it comes in a box with like, pseudo, it's like pseudo deck building, and I think it gets framed too much that way. Because it is more of just a character sheet broken into cards. So yeah,


Amelia Antrim  18:09  

it's just the things that are like you would write on your own sheet. And they've written them down and you grab them, like,


Neal Powell  18:16  

yeah, and there's a little bit of a, it does end up having a little bit of a deckbuilding feel, though, because I can see what's in my hand currently. So I can, I can always do something. But there are those moments when I can see that everything's kind of lined up. And I can do something, if you will, legendary. And so then everyone can kind of know what everyone else has and then knowing, okay, so I could just do a regular turn, or I could do this above and beyond turn, we all have the right cards together. And then like I said, we go we dip into that legendary territory.


Ryan Boelter  18:52  

So this is the part where we talk a little bit about the history of the game. I saw that it was kick started in 2015. And finally fulfilled in 2016. I was tickled when I when I saw the Kickstarter, and it said we're gonna have 120 page rulebook. And all these cards, it's gonna be great. This is a 460 page tome. It's heavy. This thing could knock somebody out. It's It's wonderful. I love I love the heft of it. I love the quality of the pages and stuff like that. But is there ever 120 pages? It's not 120 pages? No, I would just find better to over deliver, right. But is there any other history of the game that you know of? Neil?


Neal Powell  19:46  

So that's, so that's one of the biggest things is that it was the Kickstarter and then it was fulfilled and then so I'm realizing now that I played it pretty early, and I had the privilege thanks to a category of Last time I played it was with Keith Baker. Oh, cool. That helped. Yeah. Learn and immersive and duel do all of those things that it was either very shortly or while they were fulfilling because I can't remember the first year I went but I know it was the first year I went from there. And the only the only big thing that's happened is if you go to drive thru RPG you can go and you can basically buy an expansion to because in the box, you can only There are six available characters, but you could only play four at a time. Go to drive thru RPG, you can buy the cards necessary to be able to play all six at one time. And it comes with the extra resource cards as well as a few additional traits. So that's really the only big addition to the game since its come out. I know that he has wanted to do things but the together studios has done a lot of really interesting things like they're the ones doing the adventure zone board games, and things like that. So they've had a lot that certainly Yeah, they did


Amelia Antrim  21:05  

two I think oh yeah,


Neal Powell  21:06  

which that thing was gangbusters because it was what the Decemberists and everything like that. As well as of course Keith did the wayfinders Guide to ever on I'm sure he was really helpful with ever on the last war. And he's been putting out different really high high end dmws busy dude. Yeah, he's got a little bit going on. So I know his thought was at one point to circle back around to it, but I'm not sure where that all set. So again, the biggest thing would be buying that from Drive Thru RPG. Very cool.


Amelia Antrim  21:38  

This is the part where we go over some quick terms and concepts that people might want to know as we go through character creation, just so nobody's confused. A couple that Brian pulled, I'm not gonna say we I'm not even gonna pretend I had anything to do. Ryan got all of this together. These are actually mine. There you go. And Neil Neil handled it. Look, I was busy falling down some stairs. Thank you both for putting all this together. So let's start with crucible.


Neal Powell  22:09  

Definitely. So the crucible is what is going back to that element of what really makes this setting and everything about this different. So again, the base level concept is we'll just use I'm, I'm me, I'm a person in this world, I die, maybe it's at the hands of the dread. Maybe it's something along those lines. And rather than going to whatever afterlife I'm chosen as a fee is the potential to be a Phoenix. And I go into the crucible. And the crucible is basically a place where then I learn and train to become a Phoenix. Now that said, I love the crucible, it's sometimes difficult to explain because it gets super tiny, why me instantaneously, because the amount of time that happens in the crucible and the daylit world, as it is called, are not equitable in any way, shape or form. In that the example it basically uses is you could have died 300 years ago, and you're coming back as a Phoenix. But it felt like you spent a couple days in the crucible. Oh, and and the reverse could certainly be true. You could have died a couple days ago. And it felt like you spent 300 years training in the crucible.


Ryan Boelter  23:27  

Oh, interesting.


Neal Powell  23:29  

And so once you're in play, because you're basically an active group in the world, you will come back at the next dawn. But that same conversation about the time that happens in the crucible while you're training to level up is still true. So you could be coming back at the next dawn. And again, it felt like like one or two seconds. I mean, it's whatever you need it to be for your character or it could have felt like you spent another 100 years in the crucible.


Ryan Boelter  23:54  

Oh, wow.


Neal Powell  23:56  

So and when you return from the crucible, and this is my favorite thing is that what you look like and how you present is everything up to you. One of the things that they usually do kind of suggest is that over time and over those levels, your separation from your humanity does start to stretch out because you do have all this power that comes from next term, the flame. So basically, it's the flame that you're attached to going back to the Phoenix analogy and things like that. So you're attached to a specific flame. And I guess also in the crucible, which is also I guess part of character creation, which we'll get to is that you have a mentor who is also attached to the flame and has has done kind of the same things as you and they're teaching you and how are you attached to them? Did you know them before Did you not? So then we'll also use the term sparks maybe at some point. So that I guess this is another concept for Phoenix that's really interesting is that you have both health sparks. So if you lose all of either one of them, you die. And you can choose to spend sparks, like if you're basically if you're, let's say five away from something legendary could spend five sparks. And it could also be your last five Spark. And so then you're choosing to complete this legendary action, but then you're dying. In the same way.


Ryan Boelter  25:24  

Oh, interesting.


Neal Powell  25:26  

School, when rank, I put all those together so your school is based, we're just gonna use d&d terms to make all of these work. Your school is totally your class. Your wing is your group of characters, your rank is your level. And then Marshal is just the DM GM term. So it's the person running the game is known as the Marshal. Feel like? Yes. Did that spark Any questions? I feel like I went really fast through those,


Ryan Boelter  25:57  

like self explanatory. Yep. I have zero knowledge of the system before this, aside from you dying come back. Um, yes, it was true. So all the knowledge you had was 100%. True. That's true. So this is how I am coming into it. And this is all making sense so far. All right. So is there anything then else then that we need to know before we dive into character creation?


Neal Powell  26:24  

I don't think so. I think we are we are primed and ready.


Amelia Antrim  26:27  

Oh, I'm so excited.


Ryan Boelter  26:28  

Shall we make some people then?


Amelia Antrim  26:30  

Let's make some people.


Ryan Boelter  26:32  

Let's make some people. Let's make some people.


Amelia Antrim  26:36  

I'm so excited for this. I haven't gotten to play this game since like 2017. Because all of my gaming is online. And it is a little difficult to do this one online.


Neal Powell  26:47  

I have thought through that very concept. And I see nothing short of like something really official happening through like an online service, because you just have so much tied to physical aspects. Yeah, you'd


Ryan Boelter  26:58  

have to almost have something like through role 20 with the custom cards or virtual tabletop. Yep, can do that as well.


Amelia Antrim  27:08  

Well, I know that like you offered to cover this game with us back in the very beginning to and the whole time. We were like, how are we going to do that? And then finally, Ryan and I now both have the game. And so we're like, now's the time. We can do it.


Ryan Boelter  27:26  

All right. Okay. So how do we start? How do we, what's our first step? You got a bunch of cards here, I don't know what I'm doing.


Neal Powell  27:35  

Step one is that we all need to select a school. So basically, it's tough. It's tough, because it's, again, it's the most important choice you're about to make. So we're doing this right up front is because basically, you're defining what your first death was. So the other thing is that in each wing, you can't repeat a school. Okay? So if I were to choose a Durant, a phoenix that has died, because they aren't tough enough, and the lesson they learn is to be stronger than that would no longer be a choice for either of you. Okay. It sounds very powered by the apocalypse ask where you can only have one play book at a time in play. Usually, yeah. And the other thing is that basically the I guess, the one thing I did miss is that you have three attributes which are strength, Grace and intellect. Again, going back to the DND intellect is going to take over intelligence and wisdom, strength is basically going to take over strength, surprise, and constitution and then grit Grace is taking over, basically, both physical and social grace. So it's both dexterity and charisma that makes sense. So everyone has grace. And then it's whether or not a class also has strength or intellect. And you can only have to have either a strength or intellect. So basically, we can all pick strength. schools or all pick intellect schools. Okay. Sorry. The rulebook says it the tome No.


Amelia Antrim  29:18  

has declared


Neal Powell  29:20  

Yes, so basically, it's just deciding what kind of death is our is our initial death.


Ryan Boelter  29:25  

Okay, so yeah, I see. Like, on the page 130 of the rulebook, it says, the six different schools, three of them are strength and grace. Three of them are intellect and grace.


Neal Powell  29:39  

Yep. Okay. And then just not that it really matters for this conversation but or for this exercise that we're doing but often the base game because if you can, anyone that wants to, you can go download the ikonics, which are pre generated characters, but the two that they leave off are the forceful and the elemental? They're a little bit more complicated. So those aren't in the pre generated character.


Amelia Antrim  30:09  

Are you willing to give me a quick explanation of what each one is? Yes. For? For our listeners, definitely not for me, because I totally know our listeners. Could you explain what each of these scores?


Neal Powell  30:27  

Yes, so you have the direct which ends up so we've talked for more of a mechanical perspective to kind of help out. So like I said, You're not tough enough. So you end up being kind of the tank of the group. So you're willing to get out there take more damage here, you're harder and tougher to tougher to kill, which ends up being a super interesting mechanic, of course, for a game where you need to die, to level up. So that's the Durant, the devoted ends up being so die for others, and they learn to strengthen and defend their allies. So the devoted ends up being a little bit more like the cleric. So sometimes you can basically take the damage of others and redirect that damage back to the enemies that you're, you're up against the forceful die because they either aren't fast enough or can't overcome an obstacle. So they ended up being kind of like a ranged archery type is one of the like Ranger feel to it is probably the easiest way to say that elemental is a phoenix that dies for duty as they burn their very life force to scour away the enemies of the Empire. And that one ends up being what kind of major Do you want to be? It could be or poor, you could go the route of more like shamanistic or, or things like that, but it's more of that elemental kind of spell casting, set, shrouded? That's a rogue die due to secrets, either in pursuit of secret knowledge or because a secret was resolved, or revealed, sorry. And then the bitter, which is the newest school. Phoenix is die in failure. They're angry. So that's more of your barbarian. And they're actually more effective, the less health they still have. So again, now you're running it. Now you're like, it's kind of the opposite of the durian, where you're running it close to the edge, because then you're more powerful based on the health you've already lost.


Ryan Boelter  32:22  

Wow. That's really interesting. There's a lot of good choices here.


Unknown Speaker  32:27  

I want to be the shrouded


Ryan Boelter  32:31  

Yes, that makes sense.


Amelia Antrim  32:33  

I feel like that's what I played when I played but again, it was 2017. So I don't.


Ryan Boelter  32:38  

But ah,


Neal Powell  32:40  

see, I remember I played better. And that in that game, and I flipped. So I've played in and ran the intro scenario quite a few times, because so that's kind of my go to like if there's a local con. I'll usually sign up to run Phoenix. And then I'll just run that intro one. But I played a bitter that basically jumped off like a two or three story Bannister and just straight down into the the like, big enemy at the time, killing them and dying at the same time. So it was wonderful. I enjoyed it very much. So I don't have to play the better. I could certainly I can certainly choose anyone. I am ready.


Ryan Boelter  33:24  

I'm I'm between the Durant and the devoted, I think, probably leaning towards the devoted, of course. We all were shocked. I wanted to play the tape this time.


Amelia Antrim  33:38  

But I said I was like, I feel like the last couple times I've like tried not to. Yeah. And you know, like played nice things and as like not secrets.


Ryan Boelter  33:48  

Secrets. Yeah.


Neal Powell  33:49  

No, no, no secrets. Let's do it. Let's, I think, I think because other things are so different. I think that the convenience of all three of us playing too tight is probably the best choice. I'm going to pick the better.


Amelia Antrim  34:03  

All right. Does that work out? We have intellect and grace. Right? And what are you intellect and grace,


Ryan Boelter  34:07  

intellect and grace,


Amelia Antrim  34:09  

and then your strength and grace, right?


Neal Powell  34:12  

Yeah, so let me know in the rules. Yep. I could not have chosen the elemental. One I could not have chosen


Ryan Boelter  34:19  

I find this interesting the way that Lina so it like they set it up, almost like a lot of board games are set up to where it's like, hey, read this verbatim to your new group of players. Yeah, to set the setting. And then here's another verbatim thing to read for each of the schools.


Neal Powell  34:38  

Very, very heavy on the potential box text. Yeah. Which is? Yeah, that's a whole conversation because some people some people really want it because they feel empowered by it. And I know other people don't like it because they feel beholden to it. I think it's always just like


Amelia Antrim  35:00  

Do you? Yeah. Which I keep Baker is not coming to your house to check if you're reading. Super awesome. Okay. Yeah, keep anytime, Keith, you're more than welcome. Like, please do call me before you come up clean up below but


Neal Powell  35:17  

but even even having done the dungeon Master's blog and dm mastix for I mean, at this point, it's going on six years. One of the things that I've only come to recently is that some people do view the written the written word, if you will, as law. I didn't know, I just wasn't, I wasn't raised in RPGs that way, and I just didn't know that. That's how some people approached it. So yeah, it is important, like, You both are looking at a lot of different games and seeing it from a lot of different perspectives. But it is important for any designer to know that some people will approach what you've written as straight up law, like people will not do certain things inside fifth edition until it's in a watse published material won't touch it. And I'm just like, Well, why, like you said, you knew you. Anytime you want


Amelia Antrim  36:11  

to sit down to play Monopoly, though, you're like, you read the rules? I mean, I guess not monopoly, I'm pretty new turn


Ryan Boelter  36:18  

free parking into a place where you get money. Right? Yeah. And then.


Amelia Antrim  36:25  

But like almost any other board game, like, if that's where you come from you, you look at the rules. And those are the rules. And so like, it, it is a little bit I think, depending on the way you played, or, you know, any of that kind of stuff. I'm watching my brother start trying to GM his first game, too. And he's like, texting me. And he's like, I don't know, I think that like, maybe my GM wasn't a good GM. Like, did you know, there's all this stuff you can do? And I was like, funny. There's a whole world out there like?


Neal Powell  36:58  

Yeah, yeah. So there's another place where I will say both both are totally right. But I hope that over time, everyone ends up leaning more towards just doing exactly what's best for you. And best for your table.


Amelia Antrim  37:12  

Yeah, but I definitely can see you like having the comfort of like, I'm not good at improv. And so you know, even like, having that text in front of me that I can kind of paraphrase is hugely helpful to somebody like me, and like, eases a lot of my anxiety too. So I think I can see it being good for people. And I know that RPGs sometimes, designers are kind of trying to like bridge that gap, too. And this is another one that starts to bridge that gap. The new fiasco edition does that to where it's a lot of cards and like, hasn't board, and it's still played like an RPG, but like, is that middle ground? So people who come from board games can be like, Oh, I recognize what this is. It has familiar pieces.


Neal Powell  37:59  

Okay. Also, I really, there's a thing that you guys don't like doing. But luckily, this, the because I've listened to enough of this helps both of you. We're not going to name our characters until we better understand our characters. Also, the naming of the character is kind of tied to how you're who your character is, as a Phoenix. It's very strange. It makes you think, Oh my gosh, how did I never thank you both. I've never connected these two pieces together. It's totally a warforged surname. So like, often a warforged will have a name that makes very visual or social sense for the warforged itself. So like, the standard character in the everon that you have as an NPC or No, I just made it their name is mall and they just have a giant mall to use to hit people. So like the devote the Durant, that is the iconic, it's the pregenerated is called shepherd. That make sense. And so so that that's kind of how you how you approach the naming convention is something along those lines. Where it's like what is the Yeah, the bitter is named wolf. So what will eventually get there, but I just wanted to say up front, don't worry about it.


Amelia Antrim  39:25  

Really start thinking about it right now. Yep, yep.


Ryan Boelter  39:30  

Interest Oh,


Neal Powell  39:31  

yeah. So one of the other things is we might jump back and forth because there's two ways to approach this is one is like the what's in the tome. And then there's also the player Guide, which you can download for free on together studios. I'm not endorsed or nor do I work for them. But let's see. So one of the things Oh, Okay, nevermind, I see where it is. We'll just follow the book fine. I see where it is. Okay, so we've all decided on our school. So one of the things about the school is that again, like I said, like I've mentioned before, it's it's like your character sheet. So you have core cards that just come with the school. So those are the things that you can do no matter what.


Ryan Boelter  40:18  

So what cards Am I looking for.


Neal Powell  40:20  

So on the bottom of the card, it will have the symbol for so you chose devoted. So it'll have the devoted symbol, which kind of looks like a circle with six lines, kind of like sun coming out of it. And on the very bottom, it will say core. And so then you'll have three cards, those are your core. So basically, one is going to be kind of your skills, or your your skills slash specialties. So like for me as a better, one thing that I have is athletics, fear, shadows, and death. And then if I use one of these when I'm doing a skill spread, again, so I'm playing cards to complete a skill of some sort, if I can say how it ties back to one of these four, I can add five to that total.


Ryan Boelter  41:11  

So I found three cards, that's a core and devoted once a talent once a skill specialties and one combat style,


Neal Powell  41:20  

correct. Okay, so then, so when you're looking at that calm combat style, that also tells you how many cards you can use in that spread. So the basic, the basic term, I guess, the term that we'll just stumble, our way into that I forgot in the beginning is the spread. So it's the cards and laying out. So your three sets are attack, defense or skill. So basically, you're attacking, you're defending, or you're trying to complete a skill. And your combat style is the number of cards that you can play in it. So you can play to intellect cards for an attack or to grace cards for a defense. Yeah, and you also have a special attribute in there as well. Hmm.


Amelia Antrim  42:05  

And there are several talents to like to bring such talents.


Neal Powell  42:10  

Correct. So for right now, also, if you can go ahead and find both of your rank one cards, because you will ultimately need to decide between one of those,


Ryan Boelter  42:20  

oh, so many choices. So I find a whole bunch of those as I was going through and then I just passed them up, because I wasn't thinking okay, so that's all right one. There we go. Interesting. Okay.


Neal Powell  42:34  

So then as you as you level up those cards, that array that are listed as rank to rank three rank for you have to be that rank to be able to select those.


Ryan Boelter  42:42  

Okay. Interesting.


Neal Powell  42:45  

So yes, ultimately, you will have that you'll have your your main card, which basically again, that describes your club, your school as a brief overview, and also is used as like a reference point of where your character is on the table, and you'll have the three core cards and you'll have to choose between one of the two rank ones.


Ryan Boelter  43:07  

Okay, so I've got I guess we can list off what we have for our core for the audience that's not familiar with the game. So we kind of know what we're talking about here. So I'm the devoted and what do we want to like go through these in alphabetical order for whatever Sure. Cool. So for combat style for the devoted I've got attack intellect so I can use two cards of intellect for attacking or defense using grace two cards for that and my special is on a successful attack I can transfer a number of wounds equal to half of my rank rounded up to your target at the cost of one's birth per wound each wound in flux three brutal damage to your target you can only do this to living targets that's really interesting. That's where that's where that that spending of the sparks kind of comes in play right? Yeah, so


Neal Powell  44:07  

you part of it is basically you're wounded and and there are scenarios where you can also take wounds from another character Yeah, but then you're using your your spark your energy to transfer those wounds to the person you're you're fighting base and then brutal damage is also so everyone has held points and basically it's a certain number of points and any points spent over that that don't then take out another health token are wasted unless you have brutal damage which basically says that even one into those would take that out. So they're brutal damage is very nice.


Ryan Boelter  44:51  

is brutal. One would say is


Amelia Antrim  44:56  

one could say that I guess


Ryan Boelter  44:59  

sorry. Are we each taking our combat style? Are we Yeah, let's let's go round robin. Perfect. So


Neal Powell  45:04  

I have Reapers fury, where for attack I can use strength or grace for and then use two cards for defense, I can use grace for two cards. And my special is that anytime I suffer a wound, I can draw one card. So essentially, the bitter ends up being able to build out a bigger hand to start choosing from pretty quickly.


Ryan Boelter  45:26  

Oh, nice. What do you got to be there?


Amelia Antrim  45:29  

My combat style is cryptic Blaine. I can attack with two intellect and defend us free grace. And then after your attack, after you successfully defend against an attack, you may become hidden.


Ryan Boelter  45:49  

Famous, alright, skill specialties. For the devoted I've got spiritual guidance. It has diplomacy, healing spirits and tradition in bold. I'm assuming those are the kind of the skills that I'm working with here.


Neal Powell  46:06  

Yeah, so then anything when you do this skill spread, as long as there's a justifiable reason why it ties back to any of those four, you're going to add five to that spread


Ryan Boelter  46:17  

rice, okay. And you may use grace periods in any skill spread involving your specialties. Very cool.


Neal Powell  46:23  

Then I have strengthened shadow. And then I like I mentioned before athletics, fear, shadows, and death. And then mine is the additional five as well as using strength cards. In any skill spread involving my specialties.


Amelia Antrim  46:38  

Mine is master of intrigue, deception, lore, observation, spy craft, if you use one or more of your specialties, in a skill spread, add five to the total, you may use intellect cards in any skill spread involving your specialties.


Ryan Boelter  46:56  

So it feels like we're kind of well rounded there. That's cool.


Neal Powell  47:01  

And that Yeah, which is one of the benefits of like, you can only choose one character from the school while you also. I mean, you also just simply can't you don't have the cards to do any other way. So there I mean, you could certainly have, if you were me, you would have more than one box. And in theory, you could have larger wings and multiple. So yeah, but essentially, you're, you have to do it that way, because you don't have the fiscal resources to do it any other way.


Ryan Boelter  47:31  

That makes sense. And finally, our talents. So I've got shared strength. When you make a spread, you can use any one card as a grace card, regardless of its actual suit. When a wing mate makes us bread, you may discard a card from your hand at the value of the card or your rank, whichever is lower to the spread. And during return, you may burn One Spark to transfer any number of wounds from any adjacent ally to yourself.


Amelia Antrim  47:59  



Ryan Boelter  48:01  

Yeah, that's pretty cool.


Amelia Antrim  48:02  

Ryan, that is your jam. Yeah. Exactly Orion card


Neal Powell  48:11  

that I have bitter strength, where you can Same deal where basically I can use any one card as a strength card, regardless of the suit. And then when I make an attack spread, I add my current wounds to the total. I don't want you to take them. I want to keep them for a bit.


Amelia Antrim  48:34  

I have hidden secrets. When you make a spread, you can use any one card as an intellect card regardless of its actual suit. The draw limit is increased by one card.


Ryan Boelter  48:45  

Nice. Alright, so now now we're on to rank one cards for ourselves. And I'm kind of I'm torn, right? Because one of my entire combat style, the shining mirror on one two talent, the devoted bond. And the shiny mirror allows me to attack with grace. Which sounds like it's good. Because it sounds like Grace is like something you can have a lot of people ask because every everyone will have grace. Yeah. So that might be good to help out in combat. But the devoted bond bond is pretty cool because you can put sparks equal to your rank plus the number of Phoenix is in your Wayne onto this card. And then any Phoenix in your Wayne may return one of the committed sparks to you on their turn to regain two sparks or draw two cards. And in addition, any member of your wind can send a Wayne send the Wayne a short telepathic message where you will then burn One Spark because of that So it has like massive, like group utility there. Versus I can do better in combat.


Neal Powell  50:08  

I say you choose that one because I'm going to do better in combat. Okay, sure


Ryan Boelter  50:11  

of it. Okay. I'll choose the devoted bond then for my rank one.


Amelia Antrim  50:17  

We all know that's what you wanted anyways. Friends, oh, like how can I help my teammates that I'm looking at my cards that are like, I really steal things from your teammates.


Ryan Boelter  50:28  

To be fair, the shiny mirror is extraordinarily on brand too, because that's one of sailor Neptune's main weapons is a mirror. So I mean, it's, it's there. But I'll forego that for now and go with the devoted bond.


Neal Powell  50:45  

So I will choose the bitter bond. For my rank one talent draw one card, anytime one of your wing mates suffers one or more wounds from an injury. In addition, you always know how many health levels your wing mates have. And since when one of them is wounded.


Amelia Antrim  51:03  

Can you do anything about that? Are you just No,


Ryan Boelter  51:05  

I just know. Okay. Is there like a? No, if you're hundreds of miles apart, it's like, oh, my friend got hurt. Correct. That's,


Neal Powell  51:16  

that's a telepathic message. Because so one of the other things is that basically, there's a, a travel system that can be used, where there's the main fortress, basically on the island called pyre that we are all starting at. And you can basically step through flame and show up somewhere else. But it's a one way trip so that nothing else can come back through and immediately be in pyre. So then you could step through, see something and say, I need immediate assistance, or everything's fine. And so you can spend that spark telepathically let us know or the reverse could be true. We don't have a devoted who took back that. And I immediately sense that whoever went through is wounded. Yeah, now I'm using that bond. And yeah, there's no there's no range on it. Also, it's it's a concept I find very funny because it's like I've seen to you across the land, but you got to walk back. Yeah, I get I get the safety element of it. You don't want anyone to just magically show up in your in the middle of your fortress? So yeah, you gotta you're on foot patrol. After


Amelia Antrim  52:22  

I have to decide, am I already decided to go? No, I really haven't though, because I have one note where it's like, when you're hidden, you may burn One Spark on your turn to appear next to one of your teammates, regardless of a distance. When one of your teammates dies, you can take one of their skill specialties and use it until they're reborn. Oh, wow. So that's pretty cool. No,


Neal Powell  52:47  

do you know why? Because like, conceptually, we kind of like ghost onto you. Like, that's that like while you're dead. And before you're reborn, if you had sparks leftover, you can still kind of use them. But then like, let's say you use them all up, then you're like creepy ghost version disappears. But like until that moment, you can like if you had sparks, so yeah, it's basically if your health gets knocked out, but you still had sparks, you're like kind of haunting the area, if you will. And you can give those to other people until you give them all out. And then you disappear onto me until the dog.


Amelia Antrim  53:29  

Or once during your turn, you may use an environmental element to become hidden. Instead of drawing a card. You may do this immediately at the start of combat, as long as you aren't surprised. Anytime you make an attack while you're hidden. You may add an additional card to your attack spread. You know what, I don't know why I said I have made a choice. I'm definitely going with that first one.


Ryan Boelter  53:50  

Like, the second one's got to be really, really good for this.


Amelia Antrim  53:54  

One I was thinking,


Neal Powell  53:55  

yeah, one of the so one of the other things is it because I didn't know where to talk about it until it came up right now. So using the environmental elements, one of the things that you do, which this is a thing that I've just kind of started or a base concept that I've started using in other games, d&d, and the like, there's something called the torch. And basically, like on your turn, you have the card that is referenced as the torch. And there are certain things that are listed there as elements that are in the area. And you can use those and then gain more on your skills and things like that. But there's sort of a one time use. So if it were like the one of the interested area, there's like this candelabra, basically. So let's say I pick it up and I stab somebody with it because I'm the better of course they did. Basically, I can get a benefit from that. But now I've used it. So it's no longer available on the torch, but it's like immediately giving everyone something to interact with. So you could have hidden behind it and then use that environmental element to then jump out and stab somebody.


Ryan Boelter  54:54  

Oh, interesting. Yeah, isn't


Amelia Antrim  54:56  

a thing that you can like make them like multiple use like, you can But you can put tokens on them or like, say that like it has so many uses or something like that, or am I thinking of something else?


Neal Powell  55:07  

No, you certainly could. Because it's really just to set up the environment like so there's somewhere deep within this set of cards are blank was that you could totally use like, dry erase markers, and you just write it out real quick. And then you can either put checkboxes next to it or check next to it, or letting the characters know that they can have two uses, depending on how it works, or what element is there.


Ryan Boelter  55:30  

Gotcha. So this is something that the marshal would introduce to a scene like say, oh, there's a piano here. There's this other thing that you can utilize. And Yep. And when I'm in, and I guess, halfway to describe me in a saloon right now, yeah.


Amelia Antrim  55:47  

There's a bar, there's a couple of bottles of whiskey,


Neal Powell  55:48  

or the funniest one I was gonna also bring up is in that intro scenario, when you do step through, when you're in the room, one of the things is a big taxidermy dubare that you can use. And so do you push it over? Do you hide behind it? What do you do? I guess, same base level concept is? Yeah, cuz you can exactly like you're saying so then if we did even want to say that there's a saloon because there's no reason that there wouldn't be there's the piano, there's the bar, there's the alcohol, like what whatever small or big element that you want to add to that torch, and then hand to the players. And then it's also representative like, of Whose turn is currently happy.


Ryan Boelter  56:24  

That's really interesting. It feels a little like aspects from like fader whenever that you're standing up in a scene that can be utilized. That's pretty cool.


Neal Powell  56:32  

Okay, so the other thing that I totally didn't have you do that we should do now is that we also need to pull out two traits. So each, each school also has two level one or rank one traits. And these would get added into the hand that we make or into the deck that we make spreads out of. So I mean, I can I did some, some pre sorting, because I use it because my box is fairly sorted. So I can totally tell you what, what yours are, if that's helpful.


Ryan Boelter  57:08  

What is what what am I looking for? I know it doesn't say trade right on the card. No,


Neal Powell  57:13  

so you're looking for these two, right? You're looking Oh, Grace and grace. Okay, see? Oh,


Amelia Antrim  57:21  

yeah, they were in this other pile, right? Yeah. So


Neal Powell  57:23  

you're looking, Ryan, you're looking to choose between Savior and heart of the wing. And I actually think you're gonna have a difficult choice with that. So there you go. Once you start reading what both of those can do. And the shrouded has psychometry and hidden motion is the two options. And I is the bitter have ruthless and reckless. And I also will have a hard time deciding.


Ryan Boelter  57:52  

I'm trying to figure out where these are in. Oh, I think I found her to the wing. Okay, so it has a little symbol on the bottom for my school, the devoted Yeah,


Neal Powell  58:04  

you'll be able to and you'll see that you'll get the get more of those at other ranks.


Ryan Boelter  58:09  

Okay. And it's and it's one, it's the one that has there, okay. Because I'm seeing like rank for rank seven. I just want to read this real quick. Okay, I don't know what that means. What's that? I was just reading the rank seven. I'm like race seven. That's gonna be really good, huh. But I have no idea what it means.


Neal Powell  58:30  

And then the funniest thing is, of course, it ranks seven that would only be that you. You had a devoted death that you would then choose from


Amelia Antrim  58:39  

these ones are all mixed.


Neal Powell  58:41  

So I have chosen reckless. When you are targeted by a melee attack, you may discard this card to launch an immediate attack against your opponent, and then draw back to your hands limit. If your enemy survives, they can complete their attack and you cannot defend Oh, the other interesting concept would also be that if they die, they don't then basically like as I'm getting attacked, I make a reckless attack. And then if I if I defeat the enemies, then it basically stopped them cold.


Ryan Boelter  59:12  

Oh, interesting. So it's kind of a an interrupt almost. Right. Yeah. To use a Magic the Gathering term.


Neal Powell  59:19  

Yes. But if they but if they don't do that, that I they will complete their attack and I will not use any defense cards.


Ryan Boelter  59:26  

Okay, but you still you still hit them right? You still hurt them? Yes. Okay. So it's just like I'm opening myself and hoping to finish this but it might not. But then again, you're the bitter. So what do you do I get reckless, yep. Okay, so you're what you were saying before is these go into your like potential spread? Right.


Neal Powell  59:52  

Where because they have because they have the, the one grace or one strength or something like that?


Ryan Boelter  59:57  

Yeah. Okay, so this one Yeah, heard of the when it's when you use this card in the spread, draw one card, and each of your wing mates may burn One Spark to add three to the value of your spread. So it sounds like you're, you're you're relying on your your wing to help you out in your in your spread. Yeah, so


Neal Powell  1:00:18  

you're gonna do something and then we all decided to burn a spark and then each of us are adding three. So then that's when you start to, like, get higher and higher, the numbers that you're completing in either a skill attack or defense spread,


Ryan Boelter  1:00:31  

okay? And then the Savior is use this card or this pride draw card. And then I can discard the save your card at any time to add five to the value of a win made spread. So that sounds like I'm helping somebody out with that, but then I lose the card. No, yes, yes, no. Do you lose the cards if you use them in a spread? No.


Neal Powell  1:00:57  

So you basically you're going to go through, so you're going to go through the deck. And as you're making spreads, you're putting them into the discard pile. And then once you run out of cards to draw, you shuffle your discard and start back over. Oh, so


Ryan Boelter  1:01:09  

you can't get it back eventually. Oh, cool.


Neal Powell  1:01:12  

So then that's why it does even feel like he feels even more like it's just your character sheet. Because basically, you can just keep you just keep drawing through that same deck as you play.


Ryan Boelter  1:01:22  

Interesting. Okay. I think I'll go with Savior, then. To allow me to help the team better. That sounds fine. I know. I know. These are, like, totally uncharacteristic. I don't like this. I've written one thing down in my notes. And that's my school and everything else is on the card.


Neal Powell  1:01:47  

Yeah, and you technically didn't even need to write that down. Because you have a scorecard.


Ryan Boelter  1:01:50  

I know. Which I didn't know when I started this.


Neal Powell  1:01:54  

Yeah, once you Yeah, once you've created the character, it all just exists in that deck. There's nothing. There's no character sheet, per se. It's just that deck of cards that you have in your hand.


Amelia Antrim  1:02:05  

Yeah, I mean, eventually, you could write down a name and if you wanted to a backstory, but other than that, there's nothing you should be. Yeah. I don't know which one of these I want to pick. First psychometry I have, you may discard this card and burned to sparks to learn the history and purpose of an object you are touching. When you use this in a successful attack spread, you may burn two sparks to make the target vulnerable for a scene or hidden motion. When you use this card in a spread draw one card you if you use it in an attack spread while you are hidden. You remain hidden.


Ryan Boelter  1:02:45  

Hmm. Nice. See, I personally love the psychometry stuff. But that goes back to my palladium heroes unlimited days. Well, no one of my one of my favorite spells or not spells it was us cyanic abilities is object read because it lets you like see scenes from the past and stuff. Which is really cool and really helpful. Whenever mysteries were involved in play. Yes.


Neal Powell  1:03:15  

So you can do that you could do something very similar with with that one where you're either choosing to do it in or out of combat until you're learning more about the object and a lot of ways it's the identify spell could definitely play it out with more of like you're seeing these images happening or then you're basically figuring out the exact spot to stab somebody. Of course the the other version of of that.


Amelia Antrim  1:03:40  

A lot of sparks to burn. Just like I mentioned two different times burning two sparks a lot of sparks. I think I wouldn't take that one though, because it does seem more interesting than just staying hidden. Mm hmm. Like while useful is not exciting.


Ryan Boelter  1:04:02  

Call to Action.


Amelia Antrim  1:04:06  

Yeah, like that.


Ryan Boelter  1:04:07  

This was my first exposure to Phoenix Tong command. And I'm really loving it so far. It took me a bit of time to understand how the cards worked. Like so much searching through my very messy decks. Yeah. But I think I picked up on it about halfway through finally so I definitely less me searching for cards in the next episode, I


Amelia Antrim  1:04:32  

hope. Yeah, it's a little bit weird to kind of pick up on when you have all of it in front of you. And you're like, I know I can only pick a third of these but like I have all of the it is it is a weird thing to do. remotely. I did recently learned though that there is there are some online possibilities. I think in tabletop simulator, maybe? Oh, yes, likely.


Ryan Boelter  1:04:53  

Yeah, I'm


Amelia Antrim  1:04:54  

trying to remember somebody recently told me. But anyway, turns out there is yes, there. out there. And I'm very excited because like this was, I remember having such a great time playing this game. So I hope everybody enjoys character creation too. Once we get past the card finding


Ryan Boelter  1:05:11  

it tightens up. Well at the very least we do better, I promise. But before we head out for this episode, we do have a few call to action items for you to think about, including a new review or two to read, since we finally found a chance to record together again.


Amelia Antrim  1:05:27  

Oh, I'm excited I forgot about us. Our first announcement is to check out the final hours of the You are the dungeon Kickstarter. It's such a good game. And they now have physical Tarot decks that you can add to your pledge. If you would like if you're listening to this on release day, Monday, June 7. Tracy is doing a wrap up stream tonight from 9pm to 3am. Eastern. I don't know what that is in Central Time. Normally we say things in central time because that's what we're in 2008 to two. There you go. I didn't want to do the math and mess it up. I didn't want to print things that will be over on their twitch channel Twitch. tv slash the other Tracy. They will have surprise guests dropping in and out over the course of the stream to help create the dungeon. Who knows who might show up.


Ryan Boelter  1:06:21  

I really love how this solo RPG is just able to embrace tons of people just hopping in and throwing in details.


Amelia Antrim  1:06:30  

I know. I know so fun. It's such a cool game like it's such a cool game.


Ryan Boelter  1:06:35  

Oh, absolutely. Speaking of cool games, you can also stop by playback a myriad of games to check out my game kimera If you enjoyed the last series. Speaking of Emilia, we never got a chance to talk about it together during the call to action. last series at all because we weren't able to record the cold opens together. It's true. due to scheduling snafu is


Amelia Antrim  1:07:00  

it's true. Um, Camaro was amazing. And her brilliance was probably like, one of the best characters that I've ever made, but also the worst. I really try and find an artist to get some kirkyard I always wanted to art of our characters, but I don't think I've ever wanted art so badly. Yeah, thank you.


Ryan Boelter  1:07:26  

Oh my god. Daniel. It's gonna be like one of those pieces of art. That's just gonna be like, how, how does this person exist?


Amelia Antrim  1:07:37  

They're gonna hate it.


Amelia Antrim  1:07:44  

He deserves that. Okay. Yep. Yep. Honestly, I had so much fun with that series. Like that was. It was phenomenal. I know those episodes were long. I really hope people were able to like, hang on there. Because I know sometimes people are like, two hours is too long for an episode. Oh, God,


Ryan Boelter  1:08:04  

good. One, it was so good. I really want to play those characters so bad. I know. I know. Oh, my goodness. Someday, we'll see. We'll see. Well, next up, remember to check out the couriers call Season Two Kickstarter, which only has a few days left. As of the time of this release, you can check the show notes to get right there as well.


Amelia Antrim  1:08:26  

Finally, we have a new review to read for you to actually, if you want to leave us a review, we've got links in the show notes to various platforms. This time, I'd like to highlight a couple of reviews from podcast addict. Both with five stars. This one from Hill sorcerer, sorcerer, but


Ryan Boelter  1:08:53  

perhaps source of power as a source or


Amelia Antrim  1:08:55  

source sorcerer. I'm so bad at reading usernames and screen names. I just want to apologize to everyone in advance because it's like words mash together. And I can't do it when the words aren't mashed together. So just I don't read compound words is what I'm saying. This review. I liked this podcast so very much that I had to figure out how to review shows on podcast addict. Great show with friendly, fun, interested hosts who have introduced me to several great new games. Thanks. You're welcome.


Ryan Boelter  1:09:29  

And thank you for the review. It was lovely seeing those pop up on podcast addict, which I check every now and then. Absolutely. We also have a second review from musen Stein, I believe.


Amelia Antrim  1:09:43  

Excellent name. Excellent.


Ryan Boelter  1:09:45  

Yep. musen Stein wrote, Emilia and Ryan are great. They're a good way to learn about how to play in new new systems. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, yeah. I love for reviews that are just like hey, Listen, it's great.


Amelia Antrim  1:10:02  

here's here's, here's the thing, I like it.


Ryan Boelter  1:10:06  

And every single review helps. So definitely leave one if you have the chance to wherever you are able to. We would really love to see those.


Amelia Antrim  1:10:16  

Definitely. That is all we have for today. We will be back next week. We are thankful to have all of you here with us. We can't wait to share the rest of character creation with you guys. This is such a good game. I love this game. I want to play more of this game. I feel like I say that every time. Until then. Take care everyone stay safe. Keep making amazing people. We'll see you next time.


Amelia Antrim  1:11:02  

Thank you for joining us for part one of this character creation series. We'll be back in part two picking up right where we left off.


Ryan Boelter  1:11:09  

Character Creation Cast is a production of the one shot Podcast Network and can be found online at www dot Character Creation add to the website to get more information on our hosts this show and even our press kit. Character Creation Cast can also be found on Twitter at Creation Cast or on our Discord server at discord dot Character Creation I'm one of your hosts Ryan Boelter and I can be found on twitter at Learn Neptune or online at Lord Neptune calm. Our other hosts Amelia Antrim can be found on twitter at ginger reckoning. Music for this episode is used with a Creative Commons license, or with permission from the podcast they originated from. Further information can be found within the show notes. Our main theme music is hero remix by Steve combs, and it's used with a Creative Commons license. This podcast is owned by us under Creative Commons. This episode was edited by Ryan Boelter. Further information for the game systems used and today's guests can be found in the show notes. If you'd like to leave us a rating or review. We have links to various review platforms out there including Apple podcasts in our show notes. Also check the show notes for links to our other projects. Thanks for joining us. I remember we find that the best part of any role playing game is character creation. So go out there and create some amazing people. We will see you next time.


Amelia Antrim  1:12:55  

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