Character Creation Cast

Series 41.3 - Micro RPGs with Ourselves (Heartbeats and Post-Match Interview)

Episode Summary

Welcome to the final episode of series 41, everyone! This series will be a bit different from our normal series. We will be covering two micro RPGs each episode with just Amelia and Ryan at the helm! This episode, we’re going in cold with character creation for Keith Baker and Jenn Ellis’s game Heartbeats and James Mendez Hodes’ game Post-Match Interview, both Micro RPGs from James D’Amato’s book, The Ultimate Micro-RPG Book! Then stick around for the outtakes at the end!

Episode Notes

Welcome to the final episode of series 41, everyone! This series will be a bit different from our normal series. We will be covering two micro RPGs each episode with just Amelia and Ryan at the helm! This episode, we’re going in cold with character creation for Keith Baker and Jenn Ellis’s game Heartbeats and James Mendez Hodes’ game Post-Match Interview, both Micro RPGs from James D’Amato’s book, The Ultimate Micro-RPG Book! Then stick around for the outtakes at the end!


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Amelia Antrim  0:01  

Welcome to the final episode of our micro RPG series, everyone. We've had a lot of fun with the series so far. And we're really excited to showcase these next couple of games for you. From James tomatoes book, the ultimate micro RPG book, before we get to the episode, though, announcements,


Ryan Boelter  0:20  

so there are only a couple more days left on the academy on Kickstarter. As of last week, when we recorded this, they were steadily making their way to the finish line to make the event viable. So head right to the Kickstarter page in the show notes if you haven't already, and toss them support their way, especially if they have not funded yet. If you aren't going but want to support a great small convention with a ton of heart, you can donate a game for $5, you can sponsor a table for $25. And use that sponsorship to show off your the game that you're making, or your podcast, whatever creative stuff or maybe boost somebody else's stuff. That'd be kind of cool, too. If you do want to attend, there's single day badges full weekend passes for players and gms alike. And if Amelia and I are able to attend, we will be doing a Character Creation Cast panel again, where we we are going to be working with the audience to create random characters, which really went over Well, the first and last time that we've done it.


Amelia Antrim  1:32  

It was so much fun. We just pulled a bunch of random tables from all over the place and then tried to make something coherent out of it. Good time.


Ryan Boelter  1:40  

Yeah, and I understand we have a lot more random tables now.


Amelia Antrim  1:45  

Yes, I am the proud owner of many random tables.


Ryan Boelter  1:48  

Yes. So. So the shenanigans are going to be through the roof next time. So definitely check that out. If everything lines up correctly, I'll probably be running a couple games as well of chi Mira, as usual. It's my staple game that I do every time I go. And we're probably gonna be done with the latest version version point eight by then. So really excited for that.


Amelia Antrim  2:11  

Speaking of supporting cool things, the one shot network, Patreon is going to be getting a lot more bonus content hopefully. We already put some in there very recently. For $5 and up patrons you get access to the Secret Archives bonus episodes. In our case, you will be able to hear Ryan, me and grant Howard expand on our characters from our spire series as James d'amato leads us through some exercises from his character backstory guide. This was at Gen Con in 2019. Back when people went places that did things. We had so much fun with it. There was a lot of in depth discussion about autism and mayo from what I remember. But besides that, there'll be another bonus episode coming out soon. We just finished recording it. Our hope is that going forward, every month or so you'll have a little a little something extra from us in the secret archive. We will next month it'll be another game from the ultimate micro RPG guide because we had so much fun. Yeah, I mean those absolutely


Ryan Boelter  3:20  

doing those games. Yeah. And that's all we really had for announcements today. So enjoy the show everybody.


Amelia Antrim  3:27  

It's a good one. A good one.


Ryan Boelter  4:02  

Welcome to Character Creation Cast, a show where we discuss and create characters, the best part of role playing games with guests using their favorite systems. I'm one of your hosts Ryan, and this episode, my co host, Amelia and I are excited to welcome again. Nobody else. Just us. Just us. Yep. We've got a small cast today because we are discussing a selection of games from the ultimate micro RPG book.


Amelia Antrim  4:35  

That's right. We are covering a multitude of games this series. Each episode has been covering two games from the book. So it's a total of six games this month. We are covering the last two in this series. heartbeats a game of medical drama by Keith Baker and Jen Alice. And post match interview. A game where you ask tired people, surreal questions. by James Mendez hautes


Ryan Boelter  5:02  

Yeah, I'm, I'm really excited to dive into these. Cuz what a difference of, I guess tone. I mean, they're both kind of absurdist and funny right tone is funny for both of them.


Amelia Antrim  5:16  

I mean, so far I feel like everything but that one is like we mostly like we mostly picked fun games. It's almost like section of our creepy child's. That wasn't a ghost. But we did not correctly.


Ryan Boelter  5:35  

Yeah, no, I'm sure. I mean, we turned one of the games into a weird funny game. going dark.


Amelia Antrim  5:43  

Oh, yeah, that one's maybe supposed to be serious. You maybe you're not supposed to be about Yeah, I mean,


Ryan Boelter  5:47  

that looks like a cool action adventure. adventurous one is the tone. But yeah, I'm down for for what? in store for us. today. heartbeats. What's in a game? A game of medical drama by Keith Baker and generalists. Now we didn't select the games based on who wrote the games, we just kind of picked out which ones appeal to us. And I guess I just realized we picked out two games by Keith Baker and Jen Ellis for this series.


Amelia Antrim  6:23  

We did we kind of went through and picked the ones that had like a little bit more robust at the character creation or like more for us to kind of do in that, you know, character world creation, because a lot of them are just like, sit down and play. So


Ryan Boelter  6:39  

yeah, so. So for this game, we need some playing cards. Joker is removed. And the tags on the game. It's a modern genre. The tone is funny. The GM lists game content of melodrama, absurdism and goofs.


Amelia Antrim  6:57  

Yeah, so it says heartbeats is a hip medical drama, and it's time to create the next episode. You're a doctor balancing the intense demands of your private life and the needs of your patience. But you're also a patient of one of the other doctors. The audience expects tension and drama. It's time to push the boundaries of modern medicine and maybe make out with a bitter rival in the on call room.


Ryan Boelter  7:17  

Yeah, so this is this is really, you know, Grey's Anatomy. Ask?


Unknown Speaker  7:23  

Right? Yeah. Um,


Ryan Boelter  7:26  

there's a lot of a lot of good stuff in general. Oh, my goodness. That. Is that. That one? That's


Amelia Antrim  7:32  

a call Magnus.


Ryan Boelter  7:33  

That's that's an old one, right?


Amelia Antrim  7:36  

Yeah. Yeah. It's like an old like daytime. Yeah, soap. Yeah, I


Ryan Boelter  7:40  

think I remember General Hospital crossing over with one of my mom's regular soap operas back in the day.


Amelia Antrim  7:47  

I don't think my mom had like regular soap operas, but like when she did watch you watch General Hospital. There you go. So yeah, so first thing we're gonna do here is we are going to create a doctor.


Ryan Boelter  8:01  

Let's create a doctor.


Unknown Speaker  8:02  

Let's make some people.


Amelia Antrim  8:05  

You start by choosing your specialty and defining trait. Okay, we're going to do by pulling cards here.


Ryan Boelter  8:10  

Oh, hey, I need my my Sailor Moon deck. trusty


Amelia Antrim  8:13  

Sailor Moon deck,


Ryan Boelter  8:14  

my trusty holographic Sailor Moon deck.


Amelia Antrim  8:18  

I need a better deck of cards. I just got some classic bicycle playing cards.


Ryan Boelter  8:24  

I got these, like 20 years ago in college, and they're still in pristine condition because I don't use them for anything. They just sit in a case.


Amelia Antrim  8:35  

You like just open them for our unbound series? Yes.


Ryan Boelter  8:45  

I mean, I've looked through them before. So they were opened at one time. Okay, but no, they weren't sealed or anything. But yeah.


Amelia Antrim  8:54  

Ken Lama good. Like a good deck of playing cards.


Ryan Boelter  8:57  

I'm still on the lookout listeners if you know of a tarot deck that is Salomon themed. That is a decent quality. Please let me know. Because


Amelia Antrim  9:09  

I've seen a couple on Etsy, but they're only like the major arcana.


Ryan Boelter  9:12  

Yeah, I want the whole thing. I'm a little greedy. But you know, I don't want to just get just the meter kinda is cool, too. Yeah, I want everything. And I'm very surprised there's not an official one out there.


Amelia Antrim  9:25  

Yeah, that does seem like bananas. Yeah. Okay, a doctor.


Ryan Boelter  9:31  

So we have to do what we have to pull cards for. specialty.


Amelia Antrim  9:37  

Yeah, we're gonna start with our specialty and our defining trait.


Ryan Boelter  9:41  

Well, wonderful. All right.


Amelia Antrim  9:44  

My doctor specialty is a psychiatrist. Huh?


Ryan Boelter  9:52  

I got a sports medicine.


Amelia Antrim  9:55  

Oh, interesting. Okay, defining traits.


Ryan Boelter  9:59  

When do you get


Amelia Antrim  10:03  

I got addict but I am not comfortable with that. So I'm going to draw again. There you go. Sir morally other page. Yep. Turn the page. Queen.


Ryan Boelter  10:16  

Brilliant. Brilliant. Nice. I got reckless.


Amelia Antrim  10:22  

Oh, that's a


Ryan Boelter  10:24  

reckless sports medicine doctor.


Amelia Antrim  10:27  

Yeah, maybe you like like skydiving and like, be kind of a daredevil? Maybe? Maybe?


Ryan Boelter  10:34  

Yeah, I guess it depends. I don't know. Right


Amelia Antrim  10:39  

So following this determine your relationships the doctor on your left and work with that player to determine the details. So we pull a card for


Ryan Boelter  10:51  

for each other right for


Amelia Antrim  10:52  

each other. Yes So my relationship to you is bitter enemies


Ryan Boelter  10:59  

bitter enemies


Unknown Speaker  11:00  

Oh what a shock


Ryan Boelter  11:02  

oh wow that's that's I'm brand for you I polled dating oh


Amelia Antrim  11:10  

two lovers that's Yeah, okay so this work with the player to determine the details if you're related. Are you a parent or child identical twins if your former lovers who broke it off? So let's talk about because it does say actually that you can you can make these up or you can drop them. Obviously, if there's a random table, we're gonna do that because it's just who we are. So let's talk about this. How are we both bitter enemies and and dating and dating?


Ryan Boelter  11:44  

What if we are like we've been dating, right? For a while in the show. And then some stuff came up that like, there's obviously still that love there. But like, we're just at each other's throats right now because of something. Hmm, like something's getting between us. That's


Amelia Antrim  12:07  

the like, could be the thing that tears us apart. Right?


Ryan Boelter  12:11  

Yeah. And like the whole drama around it is can they prevail over this? potential disaster.


Amelia Antrim  12:18  

Okay, I have another suggestion. Like, you're just good. What if, yeah, there's also like, these, like calling shows that are hosted by doctors. But like, if you don't use your real like Doctor name, you know, you're just like, Dr. Steve, you know, just your first name or something like, okay, but like we have competing shows. Oh, well, we don't know who the other person is.


Ryan Boelter  12:46  

Oh, as far as like, we're just anonymous. Like, right?


Amelia Antrim  12:49  

But like, You are like my nemesis radio host. But you don't know it's me. You can't recognize my voice. And I can't recognize you if you put on a fake mustache. Because this is a soap opera.


Ryan Boelter  13:10  

That's fair.


Amelia Antrim  13:12  

So yours is also like, less ridiculous. To be fair, yours is much more dramatic.


Ryan Boelter  13:18  

I do love like podcast enemies.


Amelia Antrim  13:23  

I mean, it doesn't have to be that I just like the idea that it's like we're doing something anonymously and rivals but we don't know that it's the other person. Cuz, okay, what


Ryan Boelter  13:31  

was yours? Maybe


Amelia Antrim  13:32  

like maybe it's like, oh, like published articles in a journal or something?


Ryan Boelter  13:36  

Yeah. You said you were a psychiatrist. Right. I'm a psychiatrist. Yeah, and I do sports medicine.


Amelia Antrim  13:41  

Right. competing for patients or anything? No. Yeah, maybe yours makes more sense. Okay.


Ryan Boelter  13:49  

Okay. What would what would what would terrorists to become bitter enemies of one another?


Amelia Antrim  13:57  

Hmm. Think it's like some kind of ethical dilemma. Oh,


Ryan Boelter  14:04  

oh, what if I'm being too reckless? with like, some big trial? I'm like, I'm skirting the ethics a little bit.


Amelia Antrim  14:14  

Yeah. You are not following good clinical practice.


Ryan Boelter  14:17  

Yeah. And, and, like, you found out about it, and you don't want to betray the trust of our relationship? by you know, telling on me, but you're like, trying to convince me to stop doing that. And kinda turn turn myself in for for lack of better word, you know?


Amelia Antrim  14:42  

Yeah. I like that. Okay,


Ryan Boelter  14:45  

I like that's full of drama.


Amelia Antrim  14:47  

Yeah. But I think it's very much like, well, I guess you're reckless. So you can decide. I was gonna say it was very much like this is you know, like, I'm doing what I have to do for my patients. You know, like, like no, you can't


Ryan Boelter  15:02  

know the manual says only put it up to 10. But I'm going to 11


Amelia Antrim  15:08  

you can't get around the randomization you have to it has to be a double blind placebo controlled trial.


Ryan Boelter  15:15  

That's Bullock's and you know it.


Amelia Antrim  15:18  

They make you take that GCP course every three years for a reason.


Ryan Boelter  15:24  

I was only attended remotely last time.


Amelia Antrim  15:27  

It's always online. Wonderful to read the web page first.


Ryan Boelter  15:37  

So we are bitter enemies because of this, this big trial that if it's successful, will bring in a ton of money for the hospital. Mm hmm. So like, it'll be good for all of us. Right? Right. So what's what's wrong with a little bit of you know, forgetting some paperwork here and there.


Amelia Antrim  16:01  

So much. Emilia the regulatory significant Kaiser now and you can't, you can't you can't do


Ryan Boelter  16:11  

it. Yeah, you can.


Amelia Antrim  16:14  

You are my enemy.


Ryan Boelter  16:19  

Oh, boy. Okay, wonderful.


Amelia Antrim  16:21  

Okay, so, next step.


Ryan Boelter  16:26  

Do we have to we have to do names? No, no, me. Okay.


Amelia Antrim  16:32  

Trade some relationships car, but Well, our flesh out your character. What's your name? What do you look like?


Ryan Boelter  16:38  

What's your name?


Amelia Antrim  16:40  

At the hospital? Okay, well, I have my name books right here.


Ryan Boelter  16:45  

Alright, so we'll start with names. Dr. Nene. Okay. my doctor's name is a Dr. Emery Swift. Oh,


Amelia Antrim  16:59  

my doctor's name is Dr. Jennifer Owen. Hello, wonderful.


Ryan Boelter  17:05  

Emory. And Jennifer. Okay, so what do we look like?


Amelia Antrim  17:10  

Well, obviously, it's a medical drama. We are conventionally attractive.


Ryan Boelter  17:13  

Yes. conventionally attractive.


Amelia Antrim  17:16  

Yeah. I mean, I'm not going to define that at all. But I'm just gonna say conventionally attractive. Uh huh. Well, yeah, whatever that means to you to your listener? Uh huh.


Ryan Boelter  17:30  

Um, I mean, my doctor is probably fairly muscular to do sports medicine, right? for physical therapy and stuff. So I can add that in there.


Amelia Antrim  17:43  

I mean, I'm a brilliant psychiatrist. So obviously, I have like some sexy cat eyeglasses or something.


Ryan Boelter  17:49  

Oh, heck, yeah.


Amelia Antrim  17:53  

Now my current psychiatrists, but the one I had before that was like, the most fashionable woman I've ever met. Like, she always looked so good. It's always jealous of her talk, you know, I'm going to be very, I'm going to be extremely fashionable.


Ryan Boelter  18:09  

There you go.


Amelia Antrim  18:10  

conventionally attractive, extremely fashionable. wears glasses. Um, yeah, you wear scrubs, but they're always like, kind of tight to like, show off your muscles.


Ryan Boelter  18:23  

And the writers for whatever reason they keep on writing scenes where I have to have my shirt off.


Amelia Antrim  18:29  

Gosh, that's so weird.


Ryan Boelter  18:37  

Huh? All right. I think that's a pretty decent enough picture for our characters. Yes. Um, you can fill in the


Amelia Antrim  18:47  

long have you been at the hospital?


Ryan Boelter  18:48  

Yes. How long have we been? Um, gosh, I want to say like, my character has been there for a while.


Amelia Antrim  18:56  

I was gonna say like, 10 years seems reasonable.


Ryan Boelter  18:59  

Yeah. Cuz like I'm willing to take these risks, because like, I've been here quite a while.


Amelia Antrim  19:07  



Ryan Boelter  19:07  

How about yourself?


Amelia Antrim  19:09  

Yeah, I think 10 years. Like, I've got an established practice and you know, but it's not like so long that I don't care anymore.


Ryan Boelter  19:15  

Yeah. What if we did our, like our residency here together or something like that?


Amelia Antrim  19:21  

Oh, yeah. We've known each other for like a long time. Yeah. Have we been dating for a long time? Or is this like the first real test of our relationship? No,


Ryan Boelter  19:30  

I think this is like, like, if this is the Grey's Anatomy equivalent, like we have


Amelia Antrim  19:37  

any dates for very long,


Ryan Boelter  19:38  

like we didn't start dating until probably five years in to working here. Okay, like there was this whole like,


Amelia Antrim  19:50  

one day Yeah. Oh, man.


Ryan Boelter  19:54  

And then something dramatic happened in season six that that brought us together. And we've been inseparable since until


Amelia Antrim  20:04  

there was a patient that had a traumatic sports injury.


Ryan Boelter  20:07  

Yeah. And this this medical trial to try to fix that. I guess we can, we might be able to fit that in with the patient twist that we have to pull. Yeah, let's find out. Alright, so we got our doctors. Now we have to know we have to create a patient.


Amelia Antrim  20:25  

Yes. To each create a patient or just like is it one for the


Ryan Boelter  20:29  

in heartbeats, you play two characters, your doctor and the patient of the doctor to your left?


Amelia Antrim  20:35  

Oh, okay, so I'm playing your patient.


Ryan Boelter  20:37  

Yeah. Oh. specialty and decide what brought you in, draw a card and consult the table if you'd like to add a twist? Obviously, of course, you want to add a twist? Okay,


Amelia Antrim  20:48  

I'm gonna pull the twist first so that I can kind of


Ryan Boelter  20:51  

Mewtwo cuz I have no idea. Yeah. Oh. That's funny. Oh, it


Unknown Speaker  20:59  

was yours. Okay,


Ryan Boelter  21:00  

I got possible criminal.


Amelia Antrim  21:02  

Oh, I got financial slash legal complications.


Ryan Boelter  21:08  

Okay, so if you are a psychiatrist, and you are seeing a possible criminal. Okay, so it sounds like, I think this is somebody that that wants to kind of, like, they're they're struggling with things in life, and they want to get some therapy in order to kind of get things in a row,


Amelia Antrim  21:38  

like turn things around.


Ryan Boelter  21:39  

Yeah, turn things around, maybe. And they're also a criminal. But they don't tell you that.


Amelia Antrim  21:47  

Oh, what kind of criminal?


Ryan Boelter  21:49  

Well, that's a good question. Should we go like, like, really? dramatic and say, like, like, serial killer?


Amelia Antrim  21:59  

Whoa. I mean, probably. Right.


Ryan Boelter  22:02  

Right. So that, like, adds so much tension to the scenes that they're in with you because it's just you and them in an office? But like, can they kill their last psychiatrists? Oh, are they a psychiatrist? hunter?


Amelia Antrim  22:17  

Oh, my God.


Ryan Boelter  22:18  

Like they get help from the psychiatrist. And after they they've gotten helped enough.


Amelia Antrim  22:23  

caught this guy yet.


Ryan Boelter  22:25  

It's a very specific, I'm always


Amelia Antrim  22:29  

like, you have to give all of your information when you go to see a doctor like they have. Although they don't, you know, it is really hard to get a patient list for evidence. That's true. They don't just hand that over to anybody.


Ryan Boelter  22:44  

So you've got it. You've got a serial killer, a secret serial killer patient. That there for just some life advice?


Amelia Antrim  22:53  

Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Nothing.


Unknown Speaker  22:56  

Nothing. malicious. Sir.


Ryan Boelter  22:58  

We must be approaching a season finale here. Yeah.


Amelia Antrim  23:02  

So I am a patient with financial slash legal complication. Okay. Um, so is this clinical trial, like the only way for me to get this treatment? Yeah, I mean, because the weight like, will affect the way a lot of those clinical trials work is that like, they whoever's sponsoring the trial has to pay for whatever the investigational thing is device or drug or whatever. Yeah. insurance doesn't have to, it's not responsible for that. So like that trial might be the only way for them to get that or get like any treatment, I guess. Because obviously, trials always going to be the only way you can get that particular treatment. But, um, to get any treatment at all.


Ryan Boelter  23:52  



Amelia Antrim  23:54  

And this is a death lease, sports injury. I guess, trying to make it more dramatic. I mean,


Ryan Boelter  24:01  

sports, sports therapists don't always they'll do like other physical therapy and stuff too. Usually. Yeah. It doesn't have to be just sports. But


Amelia Antrim  24:12  

maybe it's a sports related


Ryan Boelter  24:14  

injury, though. Oh, maybe. But and like the the league is denying that. It's


Amelia Antrim  24:21  

on the field, right. And this person, like can't work anymore? Like, yeah, can't keep playing. And they don't have played obviously. Yeah.


Ryan Boelter  24:28  

And they don't have enough money to go after the league. Because how are you supposed to finance against force like that?


Amelia Antrim  24:37  

And you definitely planned to play like another five or six years. Yeah.


Ryan Boelter  24:41  

And this was like, your rookie year, this person's rookie year, maybe? Oh,


Amelia Antrim  24:47  

yeah. So this trial is like the only way to get it. And then of course, like there's, if it's randomized, there's no guarantee that you'll get it. So maybe that's what you're doing is like sort of like faking that to make sure that they all get the treatment. Yeah,


Ryan Boelter  25:02  

yeah, cuz because otherwise if it's double blind, they might get a placebo and what's the point? Right, right, man? America.


Amelia Antrim  25:12  

Yeah. Okay, what I'm sorry or other some other sports organization?


Ryan Boelter  25:19  

Yep. Could be Oh,


Amelia Antrim  25:21  

this is


Ryan Boelter  25:23  

this is right for right for drama. Right for shenanigans. This is great. I don't think I could easily play. I'm a secret serial killer. I see my psychiatrist. But creating the character was was really interesting.


Amelia Antrim  25:43  

Yeah, it was a lot of fun. I like I like that. It's, you can be like, okay, it's


Unknown Speaker  25:49  

a soap opera.


Amelia Antrim  25:50  

Like, what is the most dramatic? They are like a serial drama. Like, what is the most ridiculous thing that I can do that like, will cause the biggest problem that we can leave? on a cliffhanger.


Ryan Boelter  26:05  

Yeah, exactly. It's really cool. So we did it. We created our people.


Amelia Antrim  26:12  

Oh, I bet because of our fight. I don't believe you when you tell me this person's a serial killer. Oh,


Ryan Boelter  26:19  

yeah. Like, maybe I picked up on some, like clues or something like that. Yeah. Oh, oh,


Amelia Antrim  26:25  

yeah. Yeah,


Ryan Boelter  26:26  

there you go.


Amelia Antrim  26:27  

Okay. Oh, that's very good.


Ryan Boelter  26:34  

It's very good. My goodness. All right. So basically, what happens from here for the gameplay is you each turn is a scene involving your character. You have two storylines, you can explore your relationship with the other doctor to your left, and treating the patient to your right. Oh, that's really interesting.


Amelia Antrim  26:59  

Yeah, we're in a group, they wouldn't be the same,


Ryan Boelter  27:01  

right person. But that's kind of cool that you can you can do this to player and have that sort of experience. Yeah. It's interesting, because you kind of set where you are, how things begin, draw a card and reveal it once you establish the scene. And that determines your progress. So red card means things are going to go the way you want them to go. And a black heart is a negative outcome. A face card means that there's a new dramatic development or sudden emergency. And then you play it out. That's really cool.


Amelia Antrim  27:39  

I do love that. It says Don't worry about realism. We know neurosurgeons don't perform brain transplants. But in this very special episode of heartbeats, Dr. Dirk Rockwell has to perform two of them.


Ryan Boelter  27:51  

That's lovely. I kind of want to draw a card for each of our scenes, just to see kind of what it would have. Yeah, go for it turned out to be a bit. Yeah. So Oh, no. Oh, no. I drew a king of clubs, as well, Black King. So it's a negative outcome. And it's a dramatic new development or suddenly emergency. So is that for for me the patient with you? Or is this me the doctor? Oh, I should I probably should have selected for your relationship with the other doctor or treating the patient was to both huh? Yeah. So this, this would apply to our relationship.


Amelia Antrim  28:40  

Oh, okay. So it's, it's what, like a negative outcome and dramatic development? Yeah,


Ryan Boelter  28:45  

it's a dramatic development or sudden emergency. And it's a negative outcome to the theme.


Amelia Antrim  28:52  

Well, obviously we break up right.


Ryan Boelter  28:54  

Yeah. I think that's pretty dramatic.


Amelia Antrim  28:57  



Ryan Boelter  28:58  

Like where we both get heated about things, all this this this serial killer conversation? Maybe it is. I'm the psychiatrist. I would know somebody if somebody is a serial killer,


Amelia Antrim  29:10  

right? Like, I'm not the one that's lying to everyone around me.


Ryan Boelter  29:14  

Yeah. And I'm not the one that's like, only working with muscles. Like, you're not, you're not working with brains like I am. Whatever, I'm probably not a good writer for the shows. Okay, so we break up. That's,


Amelia Antrim  29:36  

it says a red card means things go the way you want them to go.


Ryan Boelter  29:38  

Yeah, but I got a black card. Oh, I


Amelia Antrim  29:40  

thought you said you got a red one. Okay. Nope. All right.


Ryan Boelter  29:43  

Um, okay. So that happens. And then what do you what did you get?


Amelia Antrim  29:50  

Got a seven, a black seven of clubs. So I'm not anything that's an emergency. See, but not a good outcome either.


Ryan Boelter  30:04  

So with this would be for the relationship as well? Or did you want to do the patient? For the first one?


Amelia Antrim  30:11  

Let's do it. Let's do a patient because I don't see if there's a reason really to like do relationship twice. Yeah. You know, I mean, yeah. So like between Is this me as a patient?


Ryan Boelter  30:22  

This is us. You with your patient? Yeah. You doctor with the patient. Um, so this is with your serial killer. It's a negative outcome, but it's not dramatic. Right. So after we've broken up.


Amelia Antrim  30:37  

Yeah. Oh, yeah. So like, I think I'm starting to like, look closer.


Amelia Antrim  30:44  

Yeah. And like, maybe ask some more probing questions. And I think that he's starting to, like, think that I might know. Oh, yeah, that's good. So like, it just like sort of increases the tension, then he, he thinks that I might, I might be on them. Yeah, I'm saying him because traditionally, serial killers are.


Ryan Boelter  31:10  

It's very traditional. I i've been picturing like a almost a scrawny guy. Not really imposing it. All. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I think that would work out well.


Amelia Antrim  31:26  

Okay, so what is what is your doctor patient?


Ryan Boelter  31:28  

So my doctor patient situation? That one doesn't count because it's a joker. But I got a six a heart.


Amelia Antrim  31:36  

Oh, so it's actually going well? Yeah. That's nice to hear. Patients responding to treatment.


Ryan Boelter  31:42  

Yeah, like that. So yeah, the the patient's responding to the treatment. Because I made sure that they didn't get the placebo. So and they don't know that I swapped them. Yeah. And everything. Um, and untainted. The study, I guess. I know. Well, yeah, it's it's, it's good to see that they're, they're turning the right way. Maybe it's like a study on ironically, like concussions?


Amelia Antrim  32:21  

Yeah. That's kind of what I assumed.


Ryan Boelter  32:24  

Yeah. Okay. I like that. So then we've got one last relationship. Yours with me?


Amelia Antrim  32:32  

Oh, yeah. I guess so. This is after we had the big fight about the serial killer. Yes. Okay. Oh, no. Oh, I think in a black jacket. You can't see my camera. jack of spades


Ryan Boelter  32:47  

is another face card. Our relationship is doomed.


Amelia Antrim  32:51  

Yeah. Oh, my don't pick up the phone. You call. And I you knew that I was supposed to have the appointment with that patient. Yeah, and I don't pick up the phone.


Ryan Boelter  33:04  

Okay. I like that. Oh, what?


Amelia Antrim  33:06  

Are you gonna blame yourself? We don't know if I'm dead. Because that's where it's gonna like, obviously,


Ryan Boelter  33:11  

right? What if I overheard like a doctor saying, What if I overheard a doctor saying that your patient was, you know, like, on the on the verge and needed to, to see somebody right away and needed to see you right away specifically.


Amelia Antrim  33:36  

First of all, that's a HIPAA violation. Totally bad.


Ryan Boelter  33:39  

Medical drugs.


Amelia Antrim  33:41  

So everything's a HIPAA violation.


Ryan Boelter  33:42  

So they they sent him to your your house. Oh, and since you're not talking to me right now you're not answering my phone calls. And I'm trying to call you want to say hey, oh my god. This guy's on the way to your house.


Amelia Antrim  33:59  

Oh my god it's not gonna go save you and have season


Ryan Boelter  34:05  

oh oh


Amelia Antrim  34:11  

yeah, there was so much fun Oh, I had a really good time. I think we played the game again though accidentally.


Ryan Boelter  34:20  

What kinda I mean we didn't go into actual role playing we just went into summaries like in in the actual game itself, you you actually roleplay things out. You answer some questions


Amelia Antrim  34:35  

you actually have to be Dr. Sports slash a serial killer.


Ryan Boelter  34:38  

Yes, exactly. Okay. And then you each story arc will say okay, so ending the game keep your progress cards for your relationship to your left and your patient here right each story arc is resolved when the combined total of your progress cards is 10 or higher. Oh color with the higher total indicates whether thing to end well read or in tragedy. Black. Oh, wow. So you keep tabs on all of these things fat face cards add dramatic twists for the half no value.


Amelia Antrim  35:10  

Oh, I didn't keep mine separated. I


Ryan Boelter  35:12  

didn't Yeah, that's fine now, but that's what the value is for at least


Amelia Antrim  35:15  

I had 1234567 cards. Right total. I guess that's what my Character Creation


Ryan Boelter  35:23  

Cast. Yeah, I think I think it's without the Character Creation Cast.


Amelia Antrim  35:28  

Yeah without the character creation I only have black cards.


Ryan Boelter  35:31  

Yeah. And I've got a red six for the patient and zero points for our relationship. And you've got zero points, but black for our relationship.


Amelia Antrim  35:43  

And then Black Friday. Yeah. Which is fine, cuz he's a serial killer. He doesn't deserve doctors treat everyone


Ryan Boelter  35:52  

they do. And maybe you can change them


Amelia Antrim  35:54  

and maybe I can change him.


Ryan Boelter  35:55  

Maybe that's maybe


Amelia Antrim  35:57  

I can reach him. Yeah. Okay. Wow, it was a good time.


Ryan Boelter  36:02  

I like it. I like it a lot. That was that, that? Yeah, that's fun.


Amelia Antrim  36:09  

You ready? First sharp tone James.


Ryan Boelter  36:13  

Speaking of Sports Medicine,


Amelia Antrim  36:14  

oh, yeah. This one's called postmatch interview. What's in a game?


Ryan Boelter  36:22  

Yes. There's a game by James Mendez Hodes. It is three or more players so that we'll see how that works. And the You play as reporters and the athlete. The tags are sports for the genre. tone is funny. GM lists. The content is sports surrealism and improv.


Amelia Antrim  36:47  

Have you ever watched those television interviews they hold with sumo wrestlers or football players? Right after the match? Someone with a microphone tries to ask the world's most tired human their innermost thoughts and feelings. The athlete returns with the most effective answer possible, because all they can think about is drinking a beer and falling asleep. In this game, we'll roleplay a slightly more interesting post match interview.


Ryan Boelter  37:09  

Yeah, so one player takes on the role of an athlete and the others play television reporters interviewing them. So I'm thinking for the for the purposes of this exercise it'll be will be the reporters, right? Cuz that's where the interesting stuff comes from.


Amelia Antrim  37:25  

Yes, I mean, so like, they create the questions and then the athlete would answer them and I yeah, I suppose if we're not playing, then yeah, we could create our athlete we could we actually we could Yeah. together and then we can each.


Ryan Boelter  37:41  

Yeah, we'll create the athlete together and then we can do the reporter stuff. for ourselves. I think that would work out. Well.


Amelia Antrim  37:47  

I do think it'd be fun to like, ask some of the questions. Oh, absolutely. We might just play this game.


Amelia Antrim  37:58  

But okay, let's let's make our athlete first because that's where it starts. Okay, let's make some people Oh, athletes


Ryan Boelter  38:14  

That's true. Um,


Amelia Antrim  38:16  

we should make a shirt that says that like it's like blank are people to and then like, like, it should have like a list of options or something like robots cats. mice.


Ryan Boelter  38:28  



Amelia Antrim  38:29  

goblins. Yep. Yeah, for the index card half on one side right to your character's full name and some details about kind of athlete you are perhaps your position on the team, but your goalkeeper professional rank. Other identifying quality. Come up with a general outline of how the sporting event went and what you did keep it simple, boring, even and loose since their partner's questions will also contribute to the narrative. Whatever it was, it happened right before the this impending interview and left you very very tired.


Ryan Boelter  39:02  

Okay, so that's that's what we get for creating an athlete. So, first of all, what sport are we? Are we playing eSports eSports all lovely. Oh,


Amelia Antrim  39:17  

I'm just like, I like the sport that I have on the brain. Now that my head is doing it like I love like, I don't know how to be an Esports mom, like, not a soccer mom. I'm an esport mom.


Ryan Boelter  39:29  

Yeah, I love it so much. Okay, so we are in eSports athlete.


Amelia Antrim  39:34  

What game do we play?


Ryan Boelter  39:36  

What Yeah, What game do we play?


Amelia Antrim  39:37  

Okay, do we play like it's usually like they're like, competitive games, but like, I'm contestants for


Ryan Boelter  39:45  

Sims for esport I don't even know how that would work. Okay, okay, don't take too much. Okay, so wait. Sims for eSports Okay, and it's gonna be a team sport, right?


Amelia Antrim  40:08  

Yeah. So like you create a bunch of characters.


Ryan Boelter  40:16  

Oh, no. It's gonna be Yeah. So the team. Yeah. Is is some one person that the controls and the rest of the team is behind you trying to tell you what you what they want their character to do. Yeah. So what position is, is this the controller?


Amelia Antrim  40:40  

No, this is left


Ryan Boelter  40:42  

shoulder. Okay, so this guy's left shoulder


Amelia Antrim  40:52  

This episode is gonna be like on.


Ryan Boelter  40:56  

Okay, so we've got a left shoulder guy, which has an official rank.


Amelia Antrim  41:05  

We're gonna come up with a better word and guy.


Ryan Boelter  41:07  

It's true. Like, they'll just say left shoulder, right. Cuz he's in football. You got left. tacklers. That. Is that soccer? No, that's,


Amelia Antrim  41:17  

that's football.


Ryan Boelter  41:19  

I don't know. Whatever. Yeah, so left shoulder, left shoulder. There's right shoulder. And then there's a above the head. So you've got three auxilary people and then you've got the controller. Right? Who is also a character in The Sims? Yeah, Lord. Okay, so


Amelia Antrim  41:45  

what is the goal of the game? Well, the


Ryan Boelter  41:49  

goal of the Sims is to


Amelia Antrim  41:51  

actually like keep your person happy, right?


Ryan Boelter  41:52  

Keep your person happy and win at life. And whatever your goal wants to be right.


Amelia Antrim  41:58  

That's true. Can't you so on at the beginning, you say like, this is the thing that I'm


Ryan Boelter  42:01  

yeah, I don't think we need to worry about like, what the real goal is in professional professional Sims. eSports because that's up to the Sims esport commission.


Unknown Speaker  42:14  

Right? To figure out.


Ryan Boelter  42:16  

Yeah, and that's above our pay grade.


Amelia Antrim  42:18  

What is the name of this team? Oh, God. Are these characters roommates? Are they a family? Because if you're playing a family then our Sims eSports team like should be named after the last name of that family. So like, this is the Johnsons.


Ryan Boelter  42:32  

I want it to be I want it to be roommates. Okay. I'm,


Amelia Antrim  42:39  

like symbolische word.


Ryan Boelter  42:46  

I will dobra I'm not for whatever reason I was thinking the Bellas Okay. Um, because like, some sports movie has that as the team name. And so these are a group of people. There. They are. Like all women, roommates, okay. All the characters are women in the in the game itself. Whether or not the players are. I imagine that it's a it's a mixed gender eSports league. Sure. Okay, so we've got this


Amelia Antrim  43:23  

person plays left shoulder for the fellas. Yeah, left shoulder for the Bellas Sims for eSports. Team.


Ryan Boelter  43:33  



Amelia Antrim  43:34  

Oh, gosh, I'm sure our listeners are in our like.


Ryan Boelter  43:41  

It's fine. Hey, lean into your nonsense. It's okay. It's Yep, yep.


Unknown Speaker  43:45  

Mm hmm.


Ryan Boelter  43:47  

Okay. Okay,


Amelia Antrim  43:48  

so this is really tired.


Ryan Boelter  43:51  

So also general outline of how the sporting event went and what we did.


Amelia Antrim  43:57  

Yeah, yeah, definitely. Um, did we win or lose? Is that what the?


Ryan Boelter  44:04  

No, just keep it loose? Yeah. So


Amelia Antrim  44:08  

we did have a party. And it did go poorly, because we forgot to put a ladder in the swimming pool.


Ryan Boelter  44:15  

Yeah, but Oh, God. But our sim got got a promotion. Oh, yeah. As well, which was nice. And, and leveled up quite a bit on what's the ridiculous hobby and Sims four


Amelia Antrim  44:34  

is gonna say like, learn several new recipes. Oh, yeah. The


Ryan Boelter  44:36  

one learn several recipes. That sounds good. Okay. I like that. And and started a rank of podcasting. Okay, cuz I know that's the thing in Sims four.


Amelia Antrim  44:48  

Is it really?


Ryan Boelter  44:49  

I believe so. Actually, I'm pretty certain. Okay, you can


Amelia Antrim  44:54  

play Sims four and it wasn't maybe it's later than that.


Ryan Boelter  44:58  

I played Sims four. And I thought


Amelia Antrim  45:01  

maybe I didn't. Maybe it was a different one. Oh, well, doesn't matter.


Ryan Boelter  45:05  

It doesn't matter, let's say yes. Okay. So it might be one of the expansions that allows you to be a podcaster.


Amelia Antrim  45:12  

Yeah. And so this person is very, very tired because obviously, as left shoulder you do spend a lot of time like leaning over. Yeah. And that's, that's like really hard on your back and your shoulders.


Ryan Boelter  45:23  

Yep. Plus, we locked our knees a little bit too much. So we lost a little bit of blood flow to the brain.


Amelia Antrim  45:32  

What and as you know, a Sims format can go on for hours,


Ryan Boelter  45:35  

days, even days. Yeah. It's just always one more turn. Because it's, it's an endurance match. Right, right. So it's whatever team is, is ready to throw in the towel. That that loses a lot of points for your team.


Amelia Antrim  45:53  

Right? Right.


Ryan Boelter  45:55  

Wow, what a ridiculous ease. Okay, so that's her. That's her athlete. Do we have a? Do we have a name for this left shoulder professional?


Amelia Antrim  46:08  

Um, let's see. Let's randomly find one. Okay. Geraldine,


Ryan Boelter  46:17  

Geraldine. Okay. What's your last name? On the why but Frasier, Papa.


Amelia Antrim  46:25  

Frasier would work because you're thinking of Geraldine Ferraro, the potential vice president that ran with


Ryan Boelter  46:34  

was that back in the 80s?


Amelia Antrim  46:36  

Yeah, it's not Mondale, is it?


Ryan Boelter  46:38  

I don't remember. I gotta look. Okay, so Geraldine Frazier.


Amelia Antrim  46:44  

Geraldine Frazier.


Ryan Boelter  46:47  

Okay, so Geraldine Frazier pronouns


Amelia Antrim  46:51  

was Walter Mondale. Walter Mondale. Yeah, not second guess myself on this stuff. Geraldine Ferraro was the running mate of Walter Mondale. Okay. Nice.


Ryan Boelter  47:07  

Okay, pronouns for Geraldine.


Amelia Antrim  47:09  

Oh, Geraldine. Um, I was gonna say she her. Okay. That makes sense. And I was gonna say that her nickname is jerr. Bear. carebear.


Ryan Boelter  47:18  

Yes, please. And, and her Sim. It has a shirt with a little cloud rainbow


Unknown Speaker  47:28  

on it. Cute. Cute.


Amelia Antrim  47:31  

Yeah. And khaki capris.


Ryan Boelter  47:33  

And one of one of her favorite emotes is stare. Oh. I don't even know if that's an option, but


Unknown Speaker  47:45  

it doesn't matter.


Amelia Antrim  47:47  

Doesn't matter. So many angry letters about this episode. You know nothing about the Sims.


Ryan Boelter  47:54  

I literally only played it a couple times when it first released and never picked it up since because it was so I'm gonna have to say it. inferior to Sims three. In a lot of different ways.


Amelia Antrim  48:08  

The hot take.


Ryan Boelter  48:09  

I know. It's gotten really angry letters. Now. It's gotten a lot better since then. From what I understand. But I just can't go into the pit of the Sims anymore and lose out on all the hours of productivity that I could have doing other things. You know


Amelia Antrim  48:27  

what? I started playing again. Roller Coaster Tycoon? Oh, no. Like the like very old like 1999. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz like you can get it on the switch and stuff. But somebody was talking to me about like, they're like, Oh, yeah, I have a friend that plays it. And it's super stressful. And I was like, dude, no, it's like the most chill game ever. You just like, build roller coasters and stuff? Yeah, adjust the prices like jack up the umbrella prices every time it rains, obviously. So I was playing this weekend for a little


Ryan Boelter  49:00  

bit. So you are very not a


Amelia Antrim  49:02  

I'm a ruthless capitalist. And


Ryan Boelter  49:07  

that's the way to win.


Amelia Antrim  49:08  

I am a roller coaster tycoon. You might say. It wasn't that funny.


Ryan Boelter  49:18  

It was. Okay,


Amelia Antrim  49:21  

okay. Now we have to come up with reporters.


Ryan Boelter  49:26  

All right. Jerry bear is getting interviewed. We've got some reporters as reporter come up with a name, a new source you represent and four questions for the athlete. Write them down on your phone or an index card. Your first question must be completely mundane, and the next three should gradually introduce some bizarre occurrence that affected the game. Such as an alien invasion, a supervillain attack or a zombie apocalypse.


Amelia Antrim  49:56  

Do we have to agree on


Ryan Boelter  49:58  

I think you don't Yes, I don't think so. Okay. I think you just go.


Amelia Antrim  50:05  

Oh, yeah, I think that the goal of the athlete is to like,


Ryan Boelter  50:08  

there is a detailed table of weirdness to


Amelia Antrim  50:10  

Yeah, try and answer and tables.


Ryan Boelter  50:13  

Yes. So So it sounds like it's it's just like, like the first one is going to be just totally mundane about the normal event.


Amelia Antrim  50:21  

Like, tell us about the tell us about the match.


Ryan Boelter  50:24  

Yeah. And then and then after that, it just gets weirder and weirder. And all these other weird things are piling on on top of each other.


Amelia Antrim  50:33  

And whoever's playing the athlete has to like, try and answer these well, being extremely tired and having no clue what anybody's talking about. Because it's not like we just say, there was a Zombie Apocalypse Now I'm gonna ask some questions. Right. Our questions get increasingly upsetting. Alright, so I'm gonna roll here.


Ryan Boelter  50:53  

Yeah. So, um, we'll take some time. Not for the audience. But for us to go ahead and fill up some questions and then we can we can reconvene


Amelia Antrim  51:06  

we're gonna name a new source. Oh, yeah. What's up? What's it like a really outdated like, aside from like, newspaper? What's in there? Like, weird? Like, telegraph? telegram.


Ryan Boelter  51:19  

telegram news. Source? Yes,


Amelia Antrim  51:21  

I'm the world's premier eSports.


Ryan Boelter  51:27  

I was thinking like, telegraph where you? You do the little Morse code? Hmm. That seems a little too old fashioned, though.


Amelia Antrim  51:36  

Well, the telegraph is that you get the telegram?


Ryan Boelter  51:38  

That's fair to go. Yeah. Only extreme hobby enthusiasts get your telegrams.


Amelia Antrim  51:46  

Gonna be like an Esports. blog. But like, specifically geared towards stay at home moms.


Ryan Boelter  51:57  

That works.


Amelia Antrim  51:59  

I mean, s h eSports. Premier online content. I think it's actually gonna be specifically for stay at home dads.


Ryan Boelter  52:13  

Okay. All right. I've got my name and my reporter. house. I don't know what it's called. Do source and your source


Amelia Antrim  52:26  



Ryan Boelter  52:30  

I got started.


Amelia Antrim  52:34  

blog with like reports about steaks. Like a food magazine. I'm kind of proud of that.


Ryan Boelter  52:55  

Okay, so the questions, questions? Yeah. So they've got some examples here. Like an Okay, question is, what did you do when the time machine appeared on the field? a better question is how did the time machines appearance on the field affect your defensive strategy during the second half? Yeah, so goodness gracious. So just up up the ridiculousness once it gets closer to the weird questions. All right. start rolling dice.


Ryan Boelter  53:31  

Oh, boy. Okay,


Amelia Antrim  53:36  

I ran out of room for my fourth question. Oh, no.


Ryan Boelter  53:40  

I'm only on question number two.


Amelia Antrim  53:43  

Like wanting to make adjustments to my questions, but like, I didn't have room so I'm like breaking like tiny writing. I'm fine. I think I have mine.


Ryan Boelter  53:52  

I'm almost done. Okay, I've got mine too. Cool.


Amelia Antrim  53:57  

So the question is, do we want to just read this off? Or do we want to like, take turns pretending to be let's,


Ryan Boelter  54:04  

yeah, let's take turns pretending. I think that sounds fun. We don't need to responses from the athlete. Because that's actually playing the game and we don't do that here. Okay. Okay. That's fine.


Amelia Antrim  54:16  

Because we can each be the athlete.


Ryan Boelter  54:18  

I mean, we could do Yeah.


Amelia Antrim  54:19  

How would you Where are we at for time here?


Ryan Boelter  54:22  

That's not bad. We could we could take turns being an athlete. Okay. Okay. was our athletes name? Ah, it was Geraldine Frazier. carebear carebear. left the left shoulder. Yeah. All right, who wants to introduce their reporter and ask the first question.


Amelia Antrim  54:40  

I can do it. Okay. Hi there. Jodi Keegan, sh eSports, the premier online blog for stay at home dads. At what point did you know you had the match in hand?


Ryan Boelter  54:53  

So now I have to I have to see whether or not they get follow up questions. But don't count on it. After answering one question, if Lee calls on another reporter, and so on, athlete, remember you're exhausted from a punishing day of emotional stress and physical intensity. Keep your answers simple, straightforward and even boring. If you're unsure of what to say fall back on generic sports Maxim's about giving it 100% cetera, et cetera. Okay, so what was the question again, now that I know what I'm where I'm supposed to be in the mind space here for the athlete?


Amelia Antrim  55:28  

At what point did you know that you had the match in hand?


Ryan Boelter  55:31  

Oh, you know, it was it was cutting dry. It was is hard to see where everything was going. But in that final stretch, we really pulled it together. And, and I think we were we were we were better for the stress that was caused in the first half. All right. Ah, yes. Fred Williams from the competitive chapter for competitions. See three for short? Yeah, how did you feel about the loss of two of your neighbors at the house party after your controller forgot to keep an eye on the budget and forgot about the letter to the pool?


Amelia Antrim  56:12  

You know, it's it's always tough. You, you practice a lot. But you can't prepare for every scenario that comes up in a match. Obviously, it's something that we will keep an eye on and try to work on for next week. But all you can do is the best in the moment. HI, JODI Keegan, again, it was clear during the 35th round that crowd control was an issue as a man in full body paint, stood in front of your computer screen and sang the Peruvian national anthem. How did that change your strategy?


Ryan Boelter  56:52  

You know, we, we practice every day to to do things with our eyes closed, even. So, really, our hands up to the controller, they were a fantastic asset to the team and never lost sight of the plays, even even without being able to see entirely.


Ryan Boelter  57:19  

Yeah, Fred Williams, from C three. So when the malicious mob began his assault on the facility, things got a little dicey with the structural integrity of the stadium. But I noticed you shifted your weight from your right foot to your left instead, how did that affect your strategy going forward?


Amelia Antrim  57:38  

I think you have to be prepared for any scenario. And it's it's always important in a match to be able to kind of change things up on the fly, you don't know what's going to happen at any given time, you can't predict how these things are going to go. So you just have to be ready to do what needs to be done to help out your team. HI, JODI again, if Claudio hadn't been struck by lightning frying the original computer, do you think you still would have been able to get the invitations to that party out on time?


Ryan Boelter  58:12  

You know, it's it's hard to say what things would have gone if things would have happened a little differently. But you know, we gave it 100% and we were able to kind of pull together at the last second and thankfully the the strategy from our right shoulder was we were able to get things taken care of in a timely matter. Alright, Fred billions again. So I'm very curious how long did it take to choreograph the song and dance number that your team broke out into during their time out during the karaoke outing?


Amelia Antrim  58:52  

You know, everybody on this team gives 110% 110% of the time? it you know, we don't we don't care how difficult things are. You do what has to be done? That's that's part of playing the sport. HI, JODI again, just one one last question here. How are you able to quickly develop a backup plan to cook that mac and cheese after your above Nelson was kidnapped by Dr. millipede?


Ryan Boelter  59:33  

Well, you know, we try to keep an eye out for each other. We we've got, you know, backup drills that we all do for in case one of us happens to get a little too exhausted. And we just happened to be able to implement one of our backup place, which, which really helped us out. Hi, Fred. Billions. Again, that's billions with a B. Yeah, so when the intelligent lemurs attacked In the last quarter, how does it change your plans when they eliminated your right shoulder?


Amelia Antrim  1:00:05  

I mean, again, you do what you have to do to win the game. I think it's really important for everybody to be aware of what's going on around you. And to kind of just be able to see the whole picture. And I'm really proud that we were able to do that today. Oh my god.


Ryan Boelter  1:00:27  

That's amazing. Excellent.


Ryan Boelter  1:00:36  

Wow. are intelligent lemurs. Oh,


Amelia Antrim  1:00:41  

intelligent lemurs.


Ryan Boelter  1:00:42  

Yeah. Like planet ape styles with with lemurs.


Amelia Antrim  1:00:47  

Okay. Alright,


Ryan Boelter  1:00:49  

so we both get did we both get supervillain


Amelia Antrim  1:00:52  

did? Yeah. Mine was Dr. millipede and he did kidnap Nelson.


Ryan Boelter  1:00:57  

Yeah, I had malicious ma that was attacking the structural integrity.


Amelia Antrim  1:01:02  

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I also had natural disaster. Okay, it was the the computer was struck by lightning and one of our players. Um, and then I also had, oh, interference from spectators. Oh, yeah. The guy singing the Peruvian.


Ryan Boelter  1:01:22  

Yeah, I had I had supervillains taxon and dance surprise song and dance number.


Amelia Antrim  1:01:27  

I love that question.


Ryan Boelter  1:01:29  

And animal incursion?


Amelia Antrim  1:01:31  

Oh, my gosh, this game was so much fun. Like I would I would play this again a bunch of times. Yeah, let's do this one again, for like some bonus content, but like a whole new sport. I'm like, Oh my God. We spent so much time coming up the sport.


Ryan Boelter  1:01:47  

I know. I think


Amelia Antrim  1:01:48  

this would have gone a lot quicker if we had just been like football, football. Instead of deciding exactly how you play competitive Sims.


Ryan Boelter  1:01:57  

Sims four.


Amelia Antrim  1:01:57  

Yep. I'm worth it.


Ryan Boelter  1:02:01  

It's so good. Hey, eSports. If competitive Sims four comes in with four player games, and their setup like we're talking about, I expect royalties of some sort.


Amelia Antrim  1:02:12  

Yeah, absolutely. And also, we are more than willing to report on it.


Ryan Boelter  1:02:18  

We've got the questions


Amelia Antrim  1:02:19  

as I started to slowly develop an accent over the course of those questions.


Ryan Boelter  1:02:25  

Yeah, so you basically can go back and forth. You there's follow up questions if you want. There's like a 15 minute timer. And so people are allowed to do follow up questions. People are allowed to kind of improv their way through, right. Yeah.


Amelia Antrim  1:02:43  

Yeah. Well, I normally one person that's athlete. Like, it's not swapping back and forth, like we did. Yeah,


Ryan Boelter  1:02:47  



Amelia Antrim  1:02:49  

But we want it to both be able to ask and answer these questions. A lot of fun.


Ryan Boelter  1:02:54  

Yeah. So then. So then one end, so one of the reporters turned to the imaginary TV camera and makes an exciting prediction for the next game. And thanks the audience for the time. And then the athletes finally go home and sleep. And that's literally the whole game. We literally played the whole game.


Amelia Antrim  1:03:13  

We did. Wow. And I'm not sorry.


Ryan Boelter  1:03:15  

I'm not sorry, either. Oh, so much fun. First time for anything.


Amelia Antrim  1:03:19  

Yeah. Oh, that's so good. It was That was so good. Yeah, I mean, I feel like I don't have more normally we have like, you know, this whole discussion of like, how did this inform things? You know, and honestly, I gotta say, I'm building our athlete informed, literally, nothing


Ryan Boelter  1:03:41  

is supposed to right.


Amelia Antrim  1:03:43  

And you know, we inhabited more personality in our reporters than is indicated, but


Ryan Boelter  1:03:48  

I don't know. I mean, building our athlete informed everything because,


Amelia Antrim  1:03:53  

well, because we built our


Ryan Boelter  1:03:54  

own sport. We built the sport paste. Although, yes,


Amelia Antrim  1:04:00  

just pick football and Ben like he's a left tackle. Yep. And that's very true. That's very true. He plays for the Green Bay Packers. They're the best team in football. And


Ryan Boelter  1:04:13  

there you go. Yeah. All right. Well, that's, that's postmatch interview. It is. And that's all the games that we had planned for this series.


Amelia Antrim  1:04:23  

Yeah, absolutely. I had such a great time. I know that this was a little bit off the beaten path for us. Um, but I This was so much fun, and I'm really glad that we got a chance to kind of just sit down and do our own dumb thing. Um, yeah, so these were all from the ultimate art micro RPG book, which is edited by James d'amato has, like 4040


Ryan Boelter  1:04:48  

games in here. Yeah.


Amelia Antrim  1:04:49  

So now you have seen six of them. Yeah, absolutely worth checking out. I think it's, it's a really great book.


Ryan Boelter  1:04:56  

Yeah. And and if you want to hear more of our And against trying these out. We're going to start doing some bonus content for the one shot Patreon for the $5 level. And we're going to cover one of these games. Probably within the next couple of weeks. It should release.


Amelia Antrim  1:05:17  

Yes. So that is us for this month. Thank you for joining us as we covered six games instead of one. We will be back next month with another exciting game. Yeah, we'll


Ryan Boelter  1:05:28  

see you then. Call to Action.


Amelia Antrim  1:05:34  

Yeah, like that.


Ryan Boelter  1:05:36  

We had a lot of fun with all of these games. But I really enjoyed our shenanigans. This episode, especially the medical drama actually sounds watchable.


Amelia Antrim  1:05:51  

vaguely watch something like vaguely Okay.


Ryan Boelter  1:05:55  

Um, but that Sims for eSports is probably our best creation. Yeah.


Amelia Antrim  1:06:05  

I mean, honestly, that might be our best work to it. Like this is our crowning achievement. We will never top The Sims for eSports league.


Ryan Boelter  1:06:15  

We've made but you know, it's a it's a, it's a high bar to reach? No,


Amelia Antrim  1:06:21  

it is it is way uphill from here.


Ryan Boelter  1:06:26  

But before we shut things down for this series, and let you get to the outtakes after the credits, we do have a couple calls to action. And one review.


Amelia Antrim  1:06:36  

probably our most important call to action right now is to check out the academy on Kickstarter, there's a couple days left, it would be really great for this project to fund. If it isn't already. We're recording this ahead of time, obviously, Ryan and I really hope to be there. We hope to see some of you there. There'll be a link to that in the show notes. But if you can help out or if you want to come please check it out.


Ryan Boelter  1:06:59  

Also, keep an eye on the one shot network Patreon, where we are going to be doing at least one bonus episode every month. That releases they're exclusively exclusively for those in the $5 enough category. The Secret archive is home to a ton of great bonus content, including behind the scenes and world building for campaign, a ton of system mastery stuff, as well as other bonus episodes others on the network have been releasing. It's really great stuff and worth checking out.


Amelia Antrim  1:07:30  

Speaking of checking things out, you can check out the links in our show notes to our various review platforms, leaving reviews on iTunes pod chaser, etc. It helps us out in the rankings helps people find our show. You can also hype us up on social media. If you like what we're doing, please tell some friends or you know, just tell us we'd like to hear it too. It makes us feel good. You can suggest us to other people looking for tabletop RPG podcast recommendations, you can join our discord at discord dot Character Creation you can chat with us there. We love when people interact with us about the show. We especially love when we get new reviews, which we then read on our show like this one from grizzly bears on pod chaser By the way, great name. I love listening to this podcast because it's it's great being able to take part of an unfamiliar RPG for a test drive before you get it. And it's nice to know that I'm not the only person that struggles with names. Keep up the great work you too. Thank you. Thank you. I'm glad to know that I'm not alone is a real struggle. Although start on naming characters support group.


Ryan Boelter  1:08:41  

I do have to say you've been getting better.


Unknown Speaker  1:08:44  

Maybe? Yeah, I think you I think


Ryan Boelter  1:08:46  

progressively over the these years you've been getting better at names on the fly.


Amelia Antrim  1:08:53  

We can't give it up on agonizing over them the way that I do when I make a character for like a campaign or something. Yeah. Because like then it needs to be meaningful. And like all this kind of stuff. And with our show, it's like No, just just make a name. That's a stick around. Exactly. Send it out.


Ryan Boelter  1:09:13  

Oh, well, thank you for the review on Chris bass. That was the last review we had waiting in the wings right now. Oh,


Amelia Antrim  1:09:25  

no. And then you said that and I know. That was coming. I have the notes. Okay, you're writing read all the way down.


Ryan Boelter  1:09:34  

That's, that's that's true. But we'd love getting these reviews and we'd love reading them. we'd really love if we could have more to add to our calls to action every series. And I know we would love to have some in general because it makes us feel good and we feel sad when we don't have reviews.


Amelia Antrim  1:09:53  

And hopefully in this series we have done something review where


Ryan Boelter  1:09:56  

exactly but For now, thanks everybody for joining us for this micro RPG series. We will be back in August with a regular series as long as everything lines up well for the recording. But until then, take care everyone stay safe, and keep making those amazing people. We'll see you next time.


Ryan Boelter  1:10:40  

Character Creation Cast is a production of the one shot Podcast Network and can be found online at www dot Character Creation add to the website to get more information on our hosts this show and even our press kit. Character Creation Cast can also be found on Twitter at Creation Cast or on our Discord server at discord Character Creation I have one of your hosts Ryan Boelter and I can be found on twitter at Learn Neptune or online at Lord Neptune calm. Our other hosts Amelia Antrim can be found on twitter at ginger reckoning. Music for this episode is used with a Creative Commons license, or with permission from the podcast they originated from. Further information can be found within the show notes. Our main theme music is hero remix by Steve combs, and is used with a Creative Commons license. This podcast is owned by us under Creative Commons. This episode was edited by Ryan Boelter. Further information for the game systems used and today's guests can be found in the show notes. If you'd like to leave us a rating or review. We have links to various preview platforms out there including Apple podcasts in our show notes. Also, check the show notes for links to our other projects. Thanks for joining us. And remember, we find that the best part of any role playing game is character creation. So go out there and create some amazing people. We will see you next time.


Amelia Antrim  1:12:26  

We got to read some show blurbs show blurbs show show show blurbs.


Ryan Boelter  1:12:34  

Character Creation Cast is hosted by the one shot Podcast Network. If you enjoyed our show, visit one shot podcast comm where you will find other great shows like total party kill.


Amelia Antrim  1:12:46  

Total party kill is a weekly live twitch stream where john Patrick Cohen, Eddie klinker, and James do again play through cephalo fair games is gloomhaven. Join them in the stream to play along through the action and interact with a constantly changing cast of characters and special guests or watch them after the fact on the one show YouTube channel. TPK airs Thursdays at 7pm Central slash one shot RPG is a bummer that no one hears my commentary about the clicky before click.


Ryan Boelter  1:13:19  

I mean it's technically recorded on the backup audio.


Amelia Antrim  1:13:23  



Ryan Boelter  1:13:23  

I could pull that out. But like you know what, that's how much work. That's a lot of work. So much work for like two seconds of audio.


Amelia Antrim  1:13:30  

Yeah. Maybe I'll do it because you say it again. You old clicky clicky clicky. Okay, so


Ryan Boelter  1:13:43  

yep, I'm right there to


Amelia Antrim  1:13:46  

finally like I slept last night and the night before. That's two nights in a row. Yeah. Which hasn't. I could not tell you the last time I got to full night's sleep in a row. Oh,


Ryan Boelter  1:13:54  

that's I'm glad that you did though. My kids got to bed at 1130 last night.


Amelia Antrim  1:14:00  

Did they sleep in this morning then? Or? No? Because I


Ryan Boelter  1:14:03  

barely. I mean, Quinn did he normally gets up at seven by himself and then gets on his tablet or goes and watches TV.


Amelia Antrim  1:14:10  



Ryan Boelter  1:14:12  

And Olivia usually gets up at the same time anyway. Um, but yeah,


Amelia Antrim  1:14:16  

yeah, mine are old enough that they like don't get me up. They just get up and they play video games or something. Yep. Yeah, um, I think it feels like it took forever to get there. Because Nate's a super needy kid. Love him, but he's very needy. And so he would come in like he would let let me sleep. But by letting me sleep at night, come in every 20 minutes or so. Yeah. Or he would come in and check. When are you going to get up? So I finally saw them and I was like, if I'm not up by this time, you may come get me. And then today, like now the recent thing has been, should I let the dog out? And it's like the dog is fine. Because if you let her out, she Scratch at my door until you let her into my room, which will then wake me up. So, no, don't let the dog out. This morning he still had to come and check. Should I let the dog out? That's fine. Whatever. I'm up, I'm up. I'm up.


Ryan Boelter  1:15:13  

I'm just letting the dog out.


Amelia Antrim  1:15:17  



Ryan Boelter  1:15:19  

Question. Yeah, if if he's, if he's waking up every 20 minutes to check when you're gonna wake up, that's just a systematic power napping.


Amelia Antrim  1:15:30  

Um, for who? For you? Because I'm not going back to sleep in between those times. It takes me a long time to fall asleep. Like that's the problem with it. Is that like, I'm not a good sleeper.


Ryan Boelter  1:15:42  

So like, that's the flaw in the plan.


Amelia Antrim  1:15:44  

Yeah, yeah. No flaw in the plan was having children to sleep I love my children dearly. But if I had intentions of sleeping, having children was not not a smart move. They're


Ryan Boelter  1:16:00  

Welcome to parenthood everybody. Yeah, yeah,


Amelia Antrim  1:16:06  

I have children who don't so well. Then I have Eleanor though, who like you can't coax out of bed? Like you can't, I have to stick the dog on her to get her out of bed because the only thing that she loves more than sleeping is the dog. So that will work but otherwise, no mate gets. He gets upset. If he like sleeps till eight o'clock. He wakes up and he's like, Oh, I wasted so much time. And I'm like, you are 10 you have so much life left to live. It's okay. If you missed two hour.


Ryan Boelter  1:16:38  

Yep, exactly.


Amelia Antrim  1:16:42  

Oh, let's make a podcast, I guess. Yeah,


Ryan Boelter  1:16:45  

let's do it. It's just us. So this won't be weird at all. Especially in games where we've never touched it before.


Amelia Antrim  1:16:53  

I'm sure it'll be fine. We'll figure it out as we go. And I'm sure that it'll edit to something beautiful. Hopefully,


Ryan Boelter  1:17:01  

each episode is two minutes long.


Amelia Antrim  1:17:03  

They're gonna probably be a little bit shorter than our usual like hour and a half two hour extravaganza.


Ryan Boelter  1:17:09  

I mean, that's why we're doing it this way. Let's go to our


Ryan Boelter  1:17:22  

topic. All right. Here we go. Um, I got a shove this over to the side. There we go.


Amelia Antrim  1:17:30  

I'm trying to like talk here. But


Ryan Boelter  1:17:34  

Yep, that's gonna be fun.


Amelia Antrim  1:17:36  

It's gonna be great.


Ryan Boelter  1:17:38  

All right, here come the fingers. Hopefully it's not too scandalous. No,


Amelia Antrim  1:17:45  

it was just a bad dream.


Ryan Boelter  1:17:47  

No, I'm talking about my dream.


Amelia Antrim  1:17:48  

Oh, Brian's gonna tell us about a sexy


Ryan Boelter  1:17:56  

Oh, boy.


Amelia Antrim  1:17:58  

No, actually Ryan's Ryan's scandalous dreams are about the time that he's you know, like dreamed about embezzling money from


Ryan Boelter  1:18:09  

I guess I guess we can just stop


Amelia Antrim  1:18:11  

stop and we'll start a new one. Yeah, might as well look at those wave forms form in waves


Ryan Boelter  1:18:21  

making waves with my forms wave forms


Unknown Speaker  1:18:26  



Amelia Antrim  1:18:30  

that's really good some good free sound Yeah, I guess oh gosh


Ryan Boelter  1:18:37  

All right. Um, yeah, let's let's let's get this taken care of and then


Amelia Antrim  1:18:43  

yeah, let's let's do it.


Ryan Boelter  1:18:44  

There we go. Okay. figures for the last time coming out Yeah. All right. Okay.


Amelia Antrim  1:18:57  

I am recording


Ryan Boelter  1:18:59  

my recording it's also recording


Amelia Antrim  1:19:08  

started so strong my recording


Ryan Boelter  1:19:13  

this record


Amelia Antrim  1:19:16  

started out with such confidence right he just had no follow through


Ryan Boelter  1:19:19  

I'm so tired it's fine.


Amelia Antrim  1:19:23  

Oh, gosh. I'm frankly like glad that we did this one just on our own. I don't know I don't feel like we get to do like out in the cold opens. We don't get to do much on our own anymore. Because the


Ryan Boelter  1:19:38  

we've had a handful of evolution cast episodes by ourselves, right. And that's it,


Amelia Antrim  1:19:43  

which I almost like wonder if going forward, we should consider doing most of those by ourselves, you know, like as a way to make them sustainable. You know, trying to find time to record all that. That's true.


Amelia Antrim  1:20:02  

I love them they're very smart. Great I'm so grateful I love my children so much. My aunt Laura always says Lord help me endure My blessings


Ryan Boelter  1:20:12  

Alright, so in lieu of time I should probably stop my audio waves


Amelia Antrim  1:20:25  

we did it I'm definitely have some like white background well background bumpiness


Ryan Boelter  1:20:31  

or background Bobby's got the background. Your games probably up to high


Amelia Antrim  1:20:36  

I know but it's like not Oh, like it's almost all the way down. Hmm. It might be because I don't have air conditioning like I have the window open. Oh, so it might just be like ambience?


Ryan Boelter  1:20:50  

Some some outside background bump ease.


Amelia Antrim  1:20:53  

Yeah, just like a little wind.


Ryan Boelter  1:20:55  

Little wind. Whoosh.


Amelia Antrim  1:20:57  

Oh, you know what it is? Hang on. I know what


Ryan Boelter  1:21:00  

it is. Oh, Mystery solved.


Amelia Antrim  1:21:05  

There's a ceiling fan.


Ryan Boelter  1:21:08  

Was this ceiling fan?


Amelia Antrim  1:21:09  

I was like, like, Is it the wind? Is it but like? Yeah,


Ryan Boelter  1:21:13  

there we go.


Amelia Antrim  1:21:14  

Now it's smooth as butter.


Ryan Boelter  1:21:16  

Problem solved. Chances are it will be eliminated pretty easily.


Amelia Antrim  1:21:25  

Yeah, I knew it was there. Yep. I don't want anybody being like, oh, Amelia. She was contagious.


Ryan Boelter  1:21:40  

Those weird


Amelia Antrim  1:21:42  

casting STD is the background.


Ryan Boelter  1:21:47  

Sound transferable disease?


Amelia Antrim  1:21:49  

Yeah, uh huh. Yep.


Ryan Boelter  1:21:55  



Amelia Antrim  1:21:57  

I can't technical disease.


Ryan Boelter  1:21:58  

Yeah, there you go. Background puppies. You do your paperwork. So should we. Should we get started and get some foreground bumpy is going on?


Amelia Antrim  1:22:12  



Ryan Boelter  1:22:21  

Oh, yeah. waveforms, Ryan. Oh, you're welcome.


Amelia Antrim  1:22:31  

Oh, gross. Okay. Okay. What's your wife's?


Ryan Boelter  1:22:40  

She say her, you know, we got errands to run.


Amelia Antrim  1:22:45  

Okay, sorry.


Ryan Boelter  1:22:49  

Oh, it's fine.


Amelia Antrim  1:22:50  

All right. Let's do this.


Ryan Boelter  1:23:00  

Okay, it's fine. Okay, here we go. All right.


Amelia Antrim  1:23:15  

You were sleeping till nice. Go back to sleep.


Ryan Boelter  1:23:20  

What am I doing here?


Amelia Antrim  1:23:22  

Starting the next section


Ryan Boelter  1:23:23  

here. Yes, this should be fine enough. I wanted to balance it out more, but I'm like, I don't care anymore. It's fine. I'm alright. Call to Action.


Amelia Antrim  1:23:37  

One shot RPG. And that's at the $5 level you get access to the secret archive. podcast. Oh, right. Ryan, your notes.


Ryan Boelter  1:23:48  

I know.


Amelia Antrim  1:23:51  

So one time I can do this. Because you should follow the correct link to find the um


Ryan Boelter  1:24:04  

there we go. Now we can stop. He. He did it as our waveforms.


Amelia Antrim  1:24:11  

Yeah, waveforms. And they're not bumpy because I turn my fan off, which is why it's so hot here.


Ryan Boelter  1:24:20  

You know what I mean about it. Okay. It's like 80 degrees outside, right? It's human. And if the fan is better for your well being right now. It was extremely easy to remove that fan sound like


Amelia Antrim  1:24:37  

Well, that's because I turned it off last time.


Ryan Boelter  1:24:40  

Before the point before you turned it off. Oh, like it was on the recording that I was like, let me see how easy this is to remove and it was just like gone and didn't really do anything to your voice. So for whatever that's worth, if you want to be a little bit more comfortable. Okay.


Amelia Antrim  1:24:56  

Turn it on, if it's not gonna be that big of a deal.


Ryan Boelter  1:24:59  

Thanks. Seriously, the the volume or the not the volume the hurt the wherever I don't know what that's called frequency the frequency of the fan is lower than where your voice starts. So I can just trim out that whole frequency and below and and it's gone.


Amelia Antrim  1:25:21  

I just don't want them be wave.


Ryan Boelter  1:25:23  

I mean that's that's fair to not one bumpy waveforms. But they're just background bumpy so it's fine.


Amelia Antrim  1:25:30  

Although today I don't have them.


Ryan Boelter  1:25:32  

Well, there you go.


Amelia Antrim  1:25:34  

Maybe my gains not as high or maybe it's because we messed with the microphone plugged it into a different USB.


Ryan Boelter  1:25:49  

Even if it's there, it's easy to get rid of just kind of screamed. We shall. We shall prevail together.


Amelia Antrim  1:25:57  

I won't scream because you'll have to edit this later. I don't want to hurt your ears.


Ryan Boelter  1:26:02  

I appreciate that. Ah, there you go.


Amelia Antrim  1:26:06  

I'll just growl like, Okay.


Ryan Boelter  1:26:12  

Ah, that's one way to work it. Awesome. So we got two games. I've got my my book. And I got Sentinel comics in the mail today. For spoilers for next series, I guess for those in the outtakes right now. So


Amelia Antrim  1:26:36  

I just started a game over the weekend that like Justin put together and he was like, it's just like the three blood mages I know and put us in a room. And I was like, like, what territory do you want? And I was like, well, there's the one I want the I want Necker politan. Hill. And I was like, that's where the guy is buried. And he's like, Oh, can we put our ritual Shambo here? And I was like the book says very specifically, you're not allowed to do magic there. So yes, that is where we're putting our ritual chamber.


Ryan Boelter  1:27:04  

Just to pick a rule breaker.


Amelia Antrim  1:27:06  

I know. I'm very excited for this game.


Ryan Boelter  1:27:09  

That's amazing. Anyway, all right. Shall we make a podcast?


Amelia Antrim  1:27:16  

Let's make a podcast. Let's make a podcast.


Ryan Boelter  1:27:20  

All right, I will do a countdown and get going. Here we go.


Amelia Antrim  1:27:28  

Well, we just released one so it's probably next month. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. But Oh, actually, by the time this comes out, you know delete all this other James cup. Yeah. Oh, no.


Ryan Boelter  1:27:47  

All right. Unless we can stop this one right.


Amelia Antrim  1:27:51  

Okay. Yeah. Do you want to stop or do you want to technical dopin onto it?


Ryan Boelter  1:27:53  

Let's stop and do a fresh because that'll make it easier for my brain function. be lucky Nike. It's a click and clack and a clicky clack click


Unknown Speaker  1:28:06  

did so much clicky today, so much. clicky


Ryan Boelter  1:28:09  

clicky clicky Okay,


Amelia Antrim  1:28:12  

here we go. My to do camera now.


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