Character Creation Cast

Series 51.2 - Alchemistresses with Allison K. Cole and Dora Dee Rogers [Designers] (Creation Continued)

Episode Summary

Welcome to the second episode of series 51, everyone! This series, we welcome Allison K. Cole and Dora Dee Rogers to discuss their latest game, Alchemistresses, a magical girl game where you play the reincarnation of powerful magical girl mistresses of the past. This episode we create the present and past worlds and our past characters along with our signature magical girl spells!

Episode Notes

Welcome to the second episode of series 51, everyone! This series, we welcome Allison K. Cole and Dora Dee Rogers to discuss their latest game, Alchemistresses, a magical girl game where you play the reincarnation of powerful magical girl mistresses of the past. This episode we create the present and past worlds and our past characters along with our signature magical girl spells!


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Ryan Boelter  0:01  

Welcome to the second part of series 51. Everyone. I cannot wait for you to hear the phenomenal stuff we have for you this episode. If you enjoyed last week's episode, this one is going to be the icing on the cake. I think it is just so good.


Amelia Antrim  0:16  

Oh, chefs kiss.


Ryan Boelter  0:19  

Absolutely. But before we get there, we have some brief announcements.


Amelia Antrim  0:24  

First up, if you missed the news last week, we've started a Patreon for the podcast. In fact, this entire series is currently up on the Patreon feed at the $5 and up level. So if you want to support us directly to help cover the costs of the show, check us out at creation cast.


Ryan Boelter  0:44  

Next up, check out the alchemist vs Kickstarter page. If you are listening the day this episode releases, the campaign starts tomorrow, June 14. If you are listening any other day before the campaign ends, well check it out. We have a link directly to it in the show notes.


Amelia Antrim  1:06  

We also have been working hard on taking our show to the next level. Take it up all, as you might say, a part of that is revamping our YouTube page. We've had a couple people here and there say that they found us through YouTube or they would like us to be on YouTube or my son said that was the only way to be cool. So if you head over to youtube dot character creation You'll be able to find our latest episodes as they release and our backlog as I get to creating graphics for each of those episodes.


Ryan Boelter  1:35  

Yeah, absolutely. And they are turning out wonderfully. Yeah, I'm really excited. They look so proud of me. Absolutely. And that's it for our announcements. This episode. We will have more details in the call to action after the show, along with a special thanks, and even a new review. But in the meantime, enjoy this episode that brings just pure pure joy to my heart.


Ryan Boelter  2:35  

On the last episode of Character Creation Cast, Ellison was creating an art student who is also the mistress of air. Dora it was creating a practical student who is also the mistress of Earth. Amelia was creating a drama student who is also the mistress of fire. And I was creating a swim Jack, who is also the mistress of water. were picking up right where we left off last time. Enjoy.


Allison K. Cole  3:07  

I thought Yeah, and then now the thing that I've heard you're excited about is world building.


Ryan Boelter  3:12  

I'm so excited. So we're starting


Allison K. Cole  3:15  

with the present day world. Yes. So we're gonna set up some presentation and again, and then move into the past. So the introduction for this is it somewhere governments convene, and adults have very important word, but an alchemist versus the world tensions around your life as a high school student? So we're going to look at what does that look like? What sort of tests are you take in? What sort of activities do you participate in? Who is your greatest rival? Is it a boarding school, a specialty school for athletes? What makes it worthy of being the setting of an anime? And the first? So there's a list of questions, and each of us will choose one. And we'll lead the discussion on that question. So all players take turns asking one of the questions from the list. The questions will be answered craft collaboratively. But the player who asked the question will take lead of the discussion and have final say on the answer. But before we do that, the most important question is what club or activity do we all participate in? And what brought us together to it? And if Yeah, and the character sheets in the world building tab, that's where I will be typing, actually, Dora whose spelling is better than mine will be typing people's answers.


Ryan Boelter  4:34  

Can we do something really on the nose and say like the role playing club?


Allison K. Cole  4:38  

We can also wait


Ryan Boelter  4:42  

I have I haven't seen that sort of activity presented in many anime if any.


Amelia Antrim  4:50  

A club at school.


Allison K. Cole  4:52  

May I say it's Lark club. into large clubs. Yeah,


Amelia Antrim  4:58  

that's for sure. I'm into that. Oh,


Allison K. Cole  5:00  

my goodness. Why? Why is June in LARP? Club?


Dora Dee Rogers  5:05  

Sorry, yeah, I just reevaluated everything about June. No, you know why it is? It's because she likes she likes crafting things.


Amelia Antrim  5:16  

I was gonna say, like the costumes, like costumes


Dora Dee Rogers  5:19  

and swords and thing. Yeah. I'm always pushing us to be like, I'm sure that like, you know, for instance, embers always like, no need to focus more on drama and performance. And I'm just like, sorry, I don't have to do that. I'm researching what, like, How close were sounding up there.


Amelia Antrim  5:39  

Yeah, you're like more into LARP as a reenactment, saying. And I'm like, This is my moment.


Allison K. Cole  5:46  

Sadly, there are so few LARPers that they all have to get together. All right. And so I will read out the list of questions and we can go in any order. If one of them calls to anyone. You can just dibs it. And this is the same process we'll do with the past world, but with a different set of questions. So the questions are, how has the modern world changed, since the great evil and magic have begun to reappear? That's one. What makes your school unique? Describe your club or activities everyday antagonist and why they are so annoying. What's your school's mascot? Describe your school's cliques. Where do people hang out between classes? And describe the school's most beloved teacher and what subject they teach? Okay.


Ryan Boelter  6:37  

Can I throw out my my zany idea? Okay.


Allison K. Cole  6:43  

If you pick a question you get full control to throw out you're gonna say,


Ryan Boelter  6:47  

I don't know if if it's if this is like a general world question instead of like, anything specific. My thought was, the present day is far in the future. And the past is our modern times. Wish magic though. With Magic with magic. Yeah.


Dora Dee Rogers  7:11  

Yeah, I'm into it. So we're LARPing. What I'm what I'm selling.


Amelia Antrim  7:16  

Oh my gosh, we're LARPing 2022 2420.


Allison K. Cole  7:19  

Yeah, yeah.


Ryan Boelter  7:23  

Yeah. So like, hundreds of years in the future. And it's like, not too much has changed. Like maybe we have hover cars. Maybe we've got like, you know, fusion power plants, and


Dora Dee Rogers  7:32  

you still go to fun High School.


Ryan Boelter  7:34  

We still go to high school


Amelia Antrim  7:36  

and the American education system hasn't changed at all.


Ryan Boelter  7:45  

We're lucky that it has in the downward direction. But yes, yeah. word for it.


Amelia Antrim  7:53  

So interest still using the same textbooks though.


Dora Dee Rogers  7:57  

That's not fair. They were updated in 2025.


Amelia Antrim  8:00  

Okay, all right. Like the ones I had in high school that were like during Ronald Reagan's pregnant. presidency. Everybody's


Dora Dee Rogers  8:06  

excited for Jimmy Carter's president. Yeah,


Amelia Antrim  8:09  

right. I can't wait to see what he does. Yeah.


Allison K. Cole  8:15  

Awesome. No, I'm still on board for that. I also like our historical reenactments will be like, they're like, recreated an In and Out Burger Exactly. As it would have been. 2020


Ryan Boelter  8:27  

Yeah, but the rise of the computers and how quaint a personal computer use Yeah.


Dora Dee Rogers  8:34  

Oh my God, just No, I just lovingly create these beautiful, like, you know, like, like, like, first generation IMAX, but are like, oh, yeah, this is


Amelia Antrim  8:49  

gonna be like us describing like, iPhones in this game. It's gonna be like me trying to explain a Nokia to my son. And I was like, No, it had a phone. And he was like, Yeah, but like, what kind of app so I was like, no one had phone.


Dora Dee Rogers  9:04  

Phone app.


Amelia Antrim  9:06  

And he's like, when you texted people, I was like, no, but it had phone and it had snake and that was it.


Dora Dee Rogers  9:13  

So I have a I have I have an idea, which is describe your club activity groups, everyday antagonists and why they're so annoying. Yes. So I feel like so there's a there's a there's a famous expression about academic politics. The reason academic politics are so vicious is because the stakes are so low. I feel like our biggest enemy that like the cool kids is the other nerds. And it's


Amelia Antrim  9:43  

gonna say I was like it's the people that are like that's not historically accurate and actually you would have


Dora Dee Rogers  9:47  

so I think that our biggest enemy since we're in like the future, are the I don't know like what they call it. Their virtual Barker's. They are people who create gorgeous and virtual Will spaces large enough? And I think that what we're doing is so primitive and stupid.


Ryan Boelter  10:04  

Oh, yeah, that that. Yeah, that would track Yeah. Why would you do this in person


Amelia Antrim  10:12  

like you? There's no way it's ever gonna look as good as like AR VR, whatever. Yeah,


Ryan Boelter  10:17  

like like I like I picture VR in the Super future is like, you know not only Star Trek holodeck but feeling as well, right? Like your


Amelia Antrim  10:28  

sensory experience. Yeah. And we're like, you can have a sensory experience too. You just have to pick the thing


Allison K. Cole  10:34  

to pick up the actors are like, Why are you touching real wood? Right? So I have one for the question. What makes your school unique? What if our school is like, a specialty school for history? Like it has a special history program, which is why there are so many people really invested in gathers to large groups interested in historical accuracy. So maybe it has some sort of program or like a it feeds into like a Yeah, it's a magnet school for classics. Majors. Sure. Yeah. Study. Yeah. 20


Amelia Antrim  11:15  

years a liberal arts school.


Allison K. Cole  11:18  

You know, the classics. Like who's a class? Who would who would be a classics in the future like of our current?


Amelia Antrim  11:25  

Even king?


Dora Dee Rogers  11:27  

Oh, my God, Stephen King, would you think it would be true? Beyonce, classical music? Yes. No, my cable would be like, it's not actually classical. That was before Beyonce.


Ryan Boelter  11:39  

Yeah, it was, like classical for us. But like, not classical,


Allison K. Cole  11:43  

Neo Neo Neo pop classical. They've got classical


Ryan Boelter  11:47  

and like classical proper. That's how they distinct but you?


Allison K. Cole  11:52  

Yeah. All right. Beautiful. Does anyone else have a question that speaks to them? And the remaining ones? Oh, so the questions that remain? How has the modern real change since the great evil and magic have begun to reappear? What's got


Amelia Antrim  12:12  

Ryan to answer that first one that you said because you kind of defined that thing about the world that like this is the future. And so I would like you to say like, what? What has changed?


Ryan Boelter  12:23  

Yeah. Yeah, evil and magic coming back. So like, my question is, is magic from the past? treated like we treat magic in medieval times? Like, yeah, sure. There was magic. Yeah, of course. Yeah, that definitely fantasy. Here's the actual history, right? Yeah. So I'm thinking like our times now is what they're teaching. But in reality, there was actual magic as well.


Allison K. Cole  12:57  

Yeah. What does that like? They find out that iPhones are powered by fairies is like the


Amelia Antrim  13:02  

well actually, everybody knows that. Real computers are powered by ghosts. Yeah, I insist on that. I'm like, that's why they work sometimes. And not others. Is that computers,


Allison K. Cole  13:10  

ghosts. So in the future, they're like people in people in the 21st century believes computers are powered by ghosts. That's ridiculous. Yeah. And then it turns out, they actually were powered by ghosts. Is that


Ryan Boelter  13:21  

something like that? Yeah. Yeah. I love that. So I think magic coming back into the the actual world itself. I believe that it can't have been too long since it started to resurge. Right, because we're we're starting to wake up as well. Yeah. So I think it's, it's caused some like, technological mishaps, I think sometimes my random


Amelia Antrim  13:51  

temperamental now because yeah, because it actually is ghosts,


Ryan Boelter  13:54  

stuff is less less predictable. Like they, they had gotten over that it when magic kind of went away and figured out how to create technology that doesn't, you know, have a mind of its own. But now it's starting to have a mind of its own again. And, and also like, you know, I would say like sightings of, like, you know, like cryptids used to be a big thing. But then they weren't for a couple 100 years. And now like now we have sightings of bizarre, like creatures and stuff are starting to kind of be like, what, what, what's going on here? Do I have to go to the historical archives to figure out like, what sort of data I'm seeing because I've nobody's ever seen something


Amelia Antrim  14:43  

like, yeah, not in their lifetime. Can I say like, as far as the evil two is that it is happening and sort of like, quote unquote, like malevolent ways that it's not just like stuff malfunctioning. It's like kind of important stuff. That's starting to go wrong.


Ryan Boelter  14:59  

Oh, Yeah, like it's like it's been first of all, it's just kind of random but then like once things are figured out the evil is actually controlling the malfunctions to to


Amelia Antrim  15:11  

Yeah, I think it's it's gonna start like, you know small like annoying stuff like traffic lights and you know, but I think eventually we get to a point where like those VR Worlds that people are building are like not what they're actually building to kind of have a mind of their own. Love it.


Ryan Boelter  15:28  

Oh, yes, yes, yes.


Amelia Antrim  15:29  

Trapped in a computer


Allison K. Cole  15:33  

with all the computer ghosts


Amelia Antrim  15:35  

Yeah, I got my stuff in there I got ghosts in there I did


Allison K. Cole  15:39  

that's how you become a computer ghost,


Ryan Boelter  15:42  

I can I can easily see an episode around like people getting like people disappearing students disappearing and those ones that are disappearing are really into this VR VR lab club. Yeah, it turns out they're in the VR now. them even though they save them, yeah,


Dora Dee Rogers  16:03  

Barrows work has never done. It's also like in the early episodes, it's gonna be the thing where it's like, you know, like Ember runs school with with toasts in her mouth bridge trying to get to the bus. And as she's leaving her, like, Mom opens that virtual newspaper, I get it right, the headlines are like running all over the page. And one of them is like, glitches, like threatened food supply or something like that. It just, you know, there's like newscasters in the background being like, officials are so puzzled by why traffic like sort of glitching all over the city.


Amelia Antrim  16:39  

Yeah, it's just like a little background mentions is they're watching the news and stuff


Ryan Boelter  16:42  

like that. I love that. Like, as we see the world building,


Amelia Antrim  16:45  

like the VR alert club, like over time, over the like the course of the season. There's like fewer and fewer of them in law. Yeah, they're


Dora Dee Rogers  16:52  

sort of like stranger and more so.


Amelia Antrim  16:55  

Yeah, yes, yes.


Ryan Boelter  16:57  

Oh, so good. One more.


Amelia Antrim  17:01  

Okay. Yeah, I think I still have to answer one, right? Yeah,


Allison K. Cole  17:04  

I can put the Yeah, the four left are these four. And they're more about setting like the mundane high school or like, who what are the cliques? Like, who's the teacher everyone loves? Where do people hang out? What's your mask?


Amelia Antrim  17:20  

So I feel like where people hang out is a really easy question to answer because I think it's the diner.


Dora Dee Rogers  17:24  

Oh, yes. Yeah, that's very good.


Allison K. Cole  17:29  

What is it like across the street from the school?


Amelia Antrim  17:32  

Or actually can? So I think that this diner, because it is like, you know, like, retro future, whatever. I think because it's kind of old and weird. It looks almost more like a Starbucks on the inside.


Dora Dee Rogers  17:49  

Some old fashions.


Amelia Antrim  17:51  

I know. Like they still have all these weird coffee drinks.


Ryan Boelter  17:55  

It's like the 50s Retro diner only


Amelia Antrim  17:58  

for 2020s. Yeah. Yeah. But like not Starbucks. It's like a because it's like a mom and pop. So it's like a weird like, a local hippie. It's like the latitudes here in Germany.


Ryan Boelter  18:09  

There's this world where 400 years in the future Starbucks no longer exists. And now they're trying to bring back that feel of Yeah, it's


Amelia Antrim  18:17  

it's Appletons ordered awakenings is whether you go love


Allison K. Cole  18:21  

or what's what's the what's the medieval times but like oh my


Amelia Antrim  18:26  

gosh yeah, like what is this millennial times millennials?


Dora Dee Rogers  18:39  

Oh, incredible.


Ryan Boelter  18:40  

Oh, that sounds amazing. Clean.


Amelia Antrim  18:44  

So now do we have to dress up when we work there too. Like we have like, stupid 2020s outfit.


Dora Dee Rogers  18:50  

Oh my gosh. And it's what do they look like? What


Amelia Antrim  18:52  

is the 2020s restaurant outfit look like?


Dora Dee Rogers  18:55  

The thing is that it's like a blend of stuff from like 2030 through 1960. So it's like here's like Shell bottom and like low waisted jeans. They're low waisted


Amelia Antrim  19:10  

but also like, like Hot Topic style shirts that have like banned logos and stuff.


Ryan Boelter  19:17  

Yes. Yeah. And they also do the the to the you know, hover car service with hover skates. Yes.


Amelia Antrim  19:26  

Oh my gosh. So we're wearing a low waisted with Green Day shirts.


Amelia Antrim  19:37  

Oh, God,


Dora Dee Rogers  19:39  

do you want to do Do you want to do like one more facilitator question.


Allison K. Cole  19:42  

So if you were the if you're running this game, because we're all making characters, there's no like GM GM. But if we were running this game that GM gets final say with one question so they get to choose something that they want to touched on, or that they might think wraps it up. So our A version of that will or will be us just like I'm taking the role of GM. And I'm going to say that you have a school mascot. And it it is an inanimate object. Oh my god like it's technology related to an inanimate object. What do you think would be a good? Like you're like the microchips or the the something really dorky? That's good. Because yes, all the animals are got long gone, I'm assuming,


Amelia Antrim  20:30  

right? Like, what's something that like right now is like supermom, like yeah, like


Ryan Boelter  20:35  

I was. I was thinking gold like super basic even Oh, really? Okay. Like the resistors. Yes.


Amelia Antrim  20:41  

Oh, really? Old part. Yeah. Okay.


Allison K. Cole  20:46  

Very like a piece of technology that is very basic. But there are no more No, no teams of animals anymore. No mascots or animals. Or if they are, they are


Ryan Boelter  20:57  

our outfits for the various you know, whatever. Sporting events are like the gross tan like color of the resistor backers. But like your your number, your team number is in the color in the color band.


Allison K. Cole  21:17  

Beautiful. And it like represents it represents the resistor represents history, strength, you know, you see some school motto like that.


Dora Dee Rogers  21:28  

Yeah. Now I was student as a cheerleader.


Allison K. Cole  21:33  

She just shouts I get so good. Yeah, okay, great.


Amelia Antrim  21:40  

Our chant has something to do with like, positive and negative


Ryan Boelter  21:45  

or harsh Nemesis has to be the Borg. Because Resistance is futile.


Dora Dee Rogers  21:50  

There you go. No.


Allison K. Cole  21:53  

That's actually like something that's engraved somewhere because they think it's an old like very knowledgeable, saying yeah, from Resistance is futile. Yes.


Ryan Boelter  22:03  

All right, from those old documentaries,


Allison K. Cole  22:06  

so we have created the present. That is our world, our first world. Now, we get to make a second world through the same process. But I guess our this is very strange. Our past is actually like a present world. But in the past, you are the mistress of an element you are chosen, marked and the powerful magic user, the genre of the past can be nearly anything. In the past, you will be reliving your dramatic conflict with the great evil. So your past world is a dramatic shift from the everyday life you are accustomed to. You are all powerful magical beings. But you will decide exactly what this looks like. Were you princesses of a planetary Kingdom warriors in a fantasy dimension bonded to animal companions, mystics tasked with defending Terra defeating terrifying monsters, pilots of great machines. And we've kind of touched on this. But the first thing that question that we ask for the president is what group? Are we in together? The first question we all answer together for the past world. What is the genre or mood of the past world? And what implications does that genre come with? I'm linking to the current document with the list of questions if that helps. Oh, yes, thank you. So our genre is like, what we're doing. We have a time period do we have like a genre with any tropes that we want to do in this time period? Is it can just be a drama in 2020?


Dora Dee Rogers  23:32  

paranormal romance, right is it's the modern worlds. And there's magic. Yeah.


Ryan Boelter  23:38  

Yeah, that's, that's pretty close. I like I like, yeah, definitely the the modern world with magic mixed into it. I was interested, are we effectively, like, superheroes? At this point? Like, the modern world?


Amelia Antrim  23:58  

That's like a pop culture version of magical, like for America, right?


Ryan Boelter  24:03  



Dora Dee Rogers  24:04  

You I mean, you see that and like Sailor Moon, for instance, right. Like sailor V is sort of like a media thinker. With reserved about, in fact, right. Yeah. Yeah. Probably, like, we probably get, like, you know, media coverage, and


Ryan Boelter  24:21  

there's probably merchandise and and


Dora Dee Rogers  24:24  

we don't see a sense. No, no.


Allison K. Cole  24:28  

People like probably don't believe that. We're actually magic, right? Because the point of this time is like, all right.


Amelia Antrim  24:34  

I mean, there are people that do but like, again, it's Reddit. Reddit believes that we're magic.


Dora Dee Rogers  24:41  

Oh my god. Yeah. There's like these lengthy posts. That's like, It's literally impossible that the mistress of Earth would tell us like it's holograms, please do.


Allison K. Cole  24:54  

And then there's yeah, there's, there's there's just literacy theorists who are like, no ghosts and computers are real and So are the magical powers of these Alchemist races.


Amelia Antrim  25:03  

But also there's tons of memes.


Ryan Boelter  25:06  

Oh my god. For days. Yeah. Okay. And the cell phone coverage? Like the people, the citizens just taking cell phone video of all this. It's all


Amelia Antrim  25:19  

of our shenanigans. Oh, yeah.


Ryan Boelter  25:23  

And like I think in the future that all this archived video and stuff that that finally made it through is like Look at these cool student projects that these people made. Yeah,


Allison K. Cole  25:34  

it's very much like probably looked at it the same way that we look at like people who wrote down Greek myths. Yeah, like it was, oh, they were telling fun stories.


Amelia Antrim  25:43  

It's a terrible, especially. Yeah.


Dora Dee Rogers  25:47  

Nobody literally believed that. Right?


Allison K. Cole  25:51  

That's so good. Perfect. And then I will read out the list of questions. I think a handful of them we've touched on already. So the first question is, how long ago was the past world? The second is describe what magic looked like when it was at the height of its power. How was the past world changed by the great evil? What did the alchemist versus protect? Who saved the alchemist versus when they needed it most? Describe a hero of the past world and what the alchemist versus learned from their example. Tell a great legend of the past world. Do the people believe it? Describe who holds the power in the past world? Describe the voiceless of the past world, what do they need? And who was betrayed by the alchemist versus so these are all prompts and we're only gonna pick we can I mean, we can do more from them. But you only need to pick four. So if we don't want there to be betrayal, we don't have to touch on that question. If we don't want there to be a hero, we don't need to touch on that.


Ryan Boelter  26:49  

Like betrayal.


Amelia Antrim  26:50  

I love betrayal. So this is the thing we've learned over time too. Is that like, I love a good backstabbing plot. Ryan, I don't know, I guess where you are now. But originally, you were like, not about that. Because you're like, we're at the table to be friends. I want to play games with my friends. And I want to be


Ryan Boelter  27:04  

friends. And I don't know if you're like NPCs that's fine. Yeah.


Amelia Antrim  27:08  

So you know, you're not really any better. Okay? Sure. It's like, because you can make bad guys now you couldn't before but you can make more nuanced characters than you could


Dora Dee Rogers  27:17  

with that character advanced.


Amelia Antrim  27:21  

I, I love a good. I love Morrow gray areas. So actually, I have a question because we like how far in the past it is. So like, we know what year it is. But I guess we didn't really define how far in the future we were. Yeah, entirely. So like, are we talking like


Ryan Boelter  27:41  

500 years? Or it has to be at least like four or 500 years? If not, like, we could even be approaching that 3000.


Amelia Antrim  27:50  

Year 3000? Not


Ryan Boelter  27:51  

3000? Yes.


Amelia Antrim  27:54  

Like that. Because I think when I think about like medieval stuff, you know, like you think about how long that was? You know, I like that kind of span of time. It's enough that we've yet we're like, we've lost kind of touch with what that was. It's so far beyond you know, because even 100 years ago, it's like, okay, we kind of know what, like,


Ryan Boelter  28:14  

we're fully quantum computers, and we can't read a simple zeros and ones anymore. Yeah,


Amelia Antrim  28:20  

yeah. Right. Well, and I think like, you know, it's like a point where like, very few people know how to handwrite things because we type everything. Yeah.


Dora Dee Rogers  28:27  

And why don't we say just to keep it symmetrical? My immediate thought with this, I think our CQ future roadmap, which is the great work of fiction said of the year 1009. Yes, but I think it should be that was sort of set as like it just turned 3000 and just update it to the current moment. It's like, yeah, 3000 came in wet ever sort of like in the aftermath, that transition point now, wondering what the heck is going on?


Allison K. Cole  28:51  

I like the thought of like cursive writing being an ancient, like thing that no one can


Ryan Boelter  28:55  

Yeah, yeah.


Amelia Antrim  28:57  

Well, we're already. I always hear that from people all the time. They're like, they don't teach cursive in schools anymore, which, in my experience is not technically true. Both of my children learned cursive. But I hear that from like other parents all the time. Like they don't teach it in schools anymore. Kids don't know how to read it. And so like the idea of, you know, 500 600 you whatever, like, no, they definitely wouldn't be able to


Allison K. Cole  29:17  

this is I'm going to bring something strange up. That it's like, it's an idea I've had for game for a long time that I've never done, but how iPhones, like replace certain words with emojis. And like, my thought is like, what does that just kept happening? until like, we went to communicating again with pictographs in a way like,


Amelia Antrim  29:33  

Oh, I love it. Yeah, we've like simplified emojis down to the point where like, it's a whole, like, understandable.


Ryan Boelter  29:43  

It's a whole concept. In a in a symbol. Yeah,


Allison K. Cole  29:47  

yeah. All right. So that was that answers how long ago it was placed. Sorry, yesterday. No, that's great.


Dora Dee Rogers  29:56  

So I want to tackle what Did the alchemist versus protect. And what I'm wondering is, by my initial thought on that is that they protect like, they protected like the human world or the rational world against the magical world, right? Like the magical world is sort of like an intrusion. Not that some people didn't use it or know about it or take advantage of it. But the alchemist versus we're sort of, you know, like, I'm picturing, like, the, like, the men and black monologue, like, you know, like, people are just gonna, like, wake up and go about their lives. Like, that's what we're here to do like that. That was kind of the energy.


Amelia Antrim  30:36  

Like, if we're doing our job, people don't know about us. Yeah,


Ryan Boelter  30:39  

exactly. That's kind of the same sort of feel I was thinking of do I love and I love that, that feel of like the the separation of mundane and magical being a thing. So like, 99% of people in the world, have no idea that this stuff is real. And then you've got that 1% That's in the No, right.


Allison K. Cole  31:03  

And like, part of our job as Alchemist nurses is to make it look like those videos were faked. Like if someone catches that we have to make it look like part of it is just as like putting on the shroud. But of course, this isn't real magic. Right? So we're actually helping that happen.


Ryan Boelter  31:18  

Although I still I also do like the thought of, like, instead of magic, people believe that we're just super powered. Yeah. And like, so when we do, like heroic things is just our superpowers.


Allison K. Cole  31:32  

It's science, not magic. Those


Amelia Antrim  31:33  

are different. Right? Yeah. Right. Yeah, it's some kind of like, I think there's the question of like, is it a medical enhancement? Is it you know, like a supplement or? Steroids? Yeah.


Allison K. Cole  31:45  

I love it. So I think I want to take the describing magic looked like what it when it was at, its the height of its power, and it to like, build on the separation, I think when it was at the height of its power, it was almost breaking through that separation, and it was almost overtaking the mundane world. So it was like to use a metaphor. It was like a dam that was about to burst, and no longer able to be kept hidden if folks are okay with that is like a


Ryan Boelter  32:14  

Yeah, like it. But that sounds like something that would be full of drama. And Strife for our group.


Dora Dee Rogers  32:25  

Makes me think of, like, there's, there's just like a line in one of the later matrix movies where, you know, they say something like, you know, we've we've freed more people in the last six months than we have in 10 years before that, right? It's just sort of freaky stuff is happening. And it's just impossible to hide it from everybody to warn people about magic.


Ryan Boelter  32:47  

I think that kind of leads into how was the past world changed by the great evil? I want to I want to say that that dam burst. Oh, at one point. And, and because of that, like, there there it was almost like Ghostbusters level of like, the now There's ghosts everywhere and, and all that sort of stuff. But like I'm more, you know, magical level. And I and so it became this like phenomenon that was truth. And like really a lot of, you know, collateral damage along with it. And then like once things settled down, it was like that, that whole, like, men and black style, like, cleaning cannot really happen. Yeah, things got cleaned up and, and the world was able to progress as normal. Right?


Allison K. Cole  33:48  

Yeah, like that. And then, if I were to throw in a last question, I was jamming. The one I would want to kind of work on with the group is to describe who holds the power in the world and kind of get some like, maybe some shady villains in here. Maybe some back alley, you know, people who know about magic, like,


Ryan Boelter  34:10  

oh my gosh, great organization.


Allison K. Cole  34:12  

I love a good shadow organization. Yeah.


Ryan Boelter  34:15  

Like, like a almost Illuminati level sort of trolling the world's governments and


Amelia Antrim  34:22  

because on the other hand, what if the reason that Tesla's work is because ghosts? Hmm, yes, driving cars are actually ghosts.


Allison K. Cole  34:34  

I like I love that. Like, I love this. There's like a dude, no 100% on board. There's like a team of like, a team of humans who know about this magic, and have made some sort of deal to be able to use it.


Amelia Antrim  34:48  

And now I think it's protected as corporate secrets. Yeah, the corporate I mean,


Ryan Boelter  34:54  

so the the shadow organization is corporate America.


Amelia Antrim  34:58  

Yeah, I just really I have to fit capitalism in there some


Allison K. Cole  35:04  

ghosts driving self driving cars. It's actually magic. We're putting our hand our lives in the hands of Matt hands and magic and


Amelia Antrim  35:11  

Google things. You're actually just asking ghosts.


Dora Dee Rogers  35:14  

Oh my God, no, this is perfect. This is why this is why there is the crisis at our mode. Right is because, like, the reason that magic was rampid is because Shinra corporation was using may go to power their self driving cars, it's Kelly.


Ryan Boelter  35:34  

And the like, like all the AI that are being like, coded in the world are just taken advantage of these ghosts. Yeah. And and then


Amelia Antrim  35:45  

they're just traveling spirits inside robots are not actually building robots.


Ryan Boelter  35:50  

Yes. And then like that, that whole singularity event that that so prominent in AI discussion where AI starts becoming more intelligent that it can create more intelligent AI. That's kind of like, what this damn is that that they're approaching, right? Like getting to that singularity event is what what causes that to burst.


Amelia Antrim  36:15  

Oh, my gosh, it's so good.


Dora Dee Rogers  36:17  

I really liked this is when we when it was my idea that I introduced like the meta black analogy. And it's, it's easy for us to sort of become like, we're on the side of the elites against the common people just never like the dynamic that I want. So I like the idea that the real villains are the people who are slipping magic into, like, you know, we're changing the boundaries of that magic is used in a way that's really dangerous. Oh, I love that so much.


Ryan Boelter  36:44  

All right. Everybody blames all the calamity on the AI.


Dora Dee Rogers  36:50  

It's the algorithm. We don't know what it's doing.


Ryan Boelter  36:52  

And then that's why they take away the AI and start building technology with with 100%. Yes, certainty on what the tech can do. They just stop using it. Yeah. Oh, that's why are your 3000 Everything's predictable. Until the AI starts taking over again. Never trust


Amelia Antrim  37:10  

in AI, because the AI is actually


Ryan Boelter  37:14  

what there's like, but there's like good and bad guys.


Dora Dee Rogers  37:16  

I think. Ghosts, there's no reason you couldn't have just like ghosts. Yeah,


Amelia Antrim  37:20  

there's Casper. And then there's everything else. genres of ghosts.


Allison K. Cole  37:27  

That's perfect. That's amazing. I think it's all falling together very well.


Amelia Antrim  37:31  

I'm really excited about this. Yeah. So that


Allison K. Cole  37:35  

is our past world. We have created our past world. Now we get to create our Magical Girl superheroes, Mistress of water, fire, air and earth. And let's pull that up. So this the character sheet you see of past one works very similar to the present day, you have three convictions. Instead of a transformation phrase, you have a victory phrase, which all magical girls have. Which you must shout to D transform. So going back to your mundane form, you have to show that victory phrase. And then instead of a bio, you have spells, and that's gonna be the most complicated part of this. We actually got one of our contributing writers who you might know if you know Shang Biswas, who is a tabletop role play designer in New York, who I met in grad school, when we were both like doing design work, they're cool. It's amazing. Read a guide to how to make the perfect spells. So that will be useful. But now we get to find out who is in the year 2022 and knows that the self driving cars are ghost. Oh, goodness. Let me pull up the this past self. And there's a little introduction to this. It's called what you remember and what you've lost. So at the beginning of the game, you actually won't remember your past life at all. That will change and you confront evil and transform for the first time. But even then, you will only regain your full memories gradually through effort and hardship. When you first transform, you only remember what's written down on your character sheet. It'll be an element of victory phrase, three convictions and one spell. You don't even remember your name. You don't remember all your abilities or even the full context of your convictions. You can use this to help build the story in the world you want to play in. Maybe you want to explore romance in this game, and you like hot tragic boys. You can make your deepest regret. I never told him I loved him. But who is he? Is there a reason you didn't tell him you loved him? We don't know yet. But the Game Master now knows that you want to find out. So these conditions can be left there can be mystery left in them. That over the course of a season, you would through like our advanced mechanics essentially are giving you these pieces of who you were. And your element and pronoun. owns you and your fellow fellow players are mistresses of elements. There was a mystery of each of the elements air, water, earth, fire and spirit. We will not be making spirit if we were playing a game your GM would actually, in secret make a spirit Alchemist truss that will play into the season over the course of the season. That's fine. It's not like the fact they're doing it isn't a secret, but you wouldn't have access to that character like


Amelia Antrim  40:24  

the White Power Ranger.


Allison K. Cole  40:26  

Exactly. They're the they're the elder Scouts of the of the season. Oh, I love it. So decide with your fellow players, who's each element. We've done that and this is how you are referred to when you're transformed because you don't remember your name. So you will be mistress of water Mr. SAFIRE, Mistress of Earth and mistress of air. Okay, so not to make a new name. No, no, you actually get the whole season to think about that. Oh, I have


Amelia Antrim  40:53  

a question though. Yeah, because we're doing like two different time periods. So and I think maybe the superhero analogy is messing me up a little bit. But like, I'm like, full time. Mr. Sapphire. I don't have like a different identity.


Allison K. Cole  41:09  

Yeah, you are full time. Mr. Sapphire. Okay. I think,


Amelia Antrim  41:13  

like a whole other. Yeah,


Dora Dee Rogers  41:14  

if we were playing a bull campaign, I think that one thing that could come out was some sort of like, that's something that we could explore during play. But it's not something you have to worry about for this case. Right? Like, okay, yeah,


Ryan Boelter  41:26  

I can easily see like, it's starting out. Like, we're getting these memories of being these mistresses. And that's all we have of these past selves. But then as time goes on, we see that they also had mundane lives.


Amelia Antrim  41:40  

Yeah, like your past self was a full person.


Ryan Boelter  41:43  

Yeah, yeah. Oh, with secret identities. And ah,


Amelia Antrim  41:47  

that's really complicated. It's wheels within wheels. And Ryan wants


Allison K. Cole  41:50  

to make seven characters. Like to make seven. It's like we have we designed a game where you play as a teenager pretending to be someone on a role playing site where they play as like a Buffy the Vampire Slayer character. Oh my gosh, to have like, three levels?


Ryan Boelter  42:08  

Just the levels? Yep. Character ception.


Allison K. Cole  42:12  

Never make it. I never make character patient simple, because I love it so much. So yeah, you will be talking about like the just who the magical being is essentially, again, you'll have a victory phrase. Do you have a good example of victory phrase you'd like to give us? Oh,


Dora Dee Rogers  42:29  

gosh, what is Mandy's victory breads? Oh, I know. So a lot of her stuff, her spells and so forth are about like light and motion. So at the end of the battle, she says stuck the landing. Very nice.


Allison K. Cole  42:43  

Nice. That's good. I put I put her on the spot for that. So like your present self here, press self has three guiding convictions your primary cause, which is kind of a grand version of your personal goal, right? This was the main motivator in your past life, it can show itself subtly in your present day self. And it will help you make decisions when you're transformed into an outcome mistress, like the primary goal of your present day self it can be abstract or deeply specific, imperfect, personal, to be the strongest or to never let her forget are good ones. And reminder. Like we can keep these kind of vague. Because the details could be would be filled in through advancement. And the deepest regret is something you regret to this day. It can be something you didn't do like I never told her or something you did, like I betrayed her her. But it should be something that deeply affected you in your past life. And then the last one is the the pair two, they were important to you now and they were important to you then. So this is a relationship important in your past life, it will tie you to a different player than your present day one did. And like they are important to you now this conviction will be decided in collaboration with that player. And remember, they can be asymmetrical. One thing that I want to let you know, just because we're not reading through the whole rulebook, which is actually really interesting is that you can regain your memories at different speeds. So someone might remember that they were your lover in a past life before you do. Or they might remember that you had a big fight that you don't remember. So that can play into these kinds of relationships. And making Yeah, really complicated and dramatic and fun.


Amelia Antrim  44:22  

Feelings. I just Ryan's having a moment over there to


Ryan Boelter  44:27  

this game. This game is just delicious.


Allison K. Cole  44:32  

He'll Yeah, we've had some, like they're remembering at different times is one of my favorite things. And whether you have there's a mechanic and we'll talk about an advanced since there's a mechanic that decides whether the memory you have is a positive one or negative one. And so it's possible that you only have negative memories of a relationship with someone else only has positive ones. It's Yeah, it's fun.


Dora Dee Rogers  44:55  

We had a play tests where there were two players who had like just a ton of negative memory. Is after two sessions and two players who had only positive memories. And it was, it was a really interesting group dynamic.


Allison K. Cole  45:07  

They had very different the characters came to very different decisions about what it meant to be an alchemist just because of what they had remembered. So that's just just to let you to inform you if you'd like, we don't want to go through the whole thing. It's a lot, but to consider when making a relationship with another person, how to add to the drama. We can start as we did the present self just with the like, goals and regrets. And again, as specific or as general as you want, based in the world that we have just made. Hmm. I'm excited to see people make spells to that's what I'm most excited about. And I guess


Amelia Antrim  45:49  

I see myself as being sort of like a political kind of like,


Dora Dee Rogers  45:54  

I was just thinking about that too


Amelia Antrim  45:57  

opinionated, forward facing, you know, well, obviously very anti capitalist, but perfect. Like if I had a mundane life, it would be as like a US senator or something like, you know, is active and passionate while like


Dora Dee Rogers  46:16  

the US Senate is having a moment right now. I take it back. Poor people they deserve.


Amelia Antrim  46:23  

Right. No, I would I feel like I would be more like the Alexandria Ocasio Cortes. Yes. Yeah. Vision, you know.


Allison K. Cole  46:32  

So like that, like politician, right?


Amelia Antrim  46:34  

Yeah. I'm trying to figure out how to like


Allison K. Cole  46:38  

another thing I really, like have found very interesting is having a past self that is very different from your present self, but in a way that your present self would either be like, disappointed in or excited by, you know, would have a strong feeling about Yeah, so I think I might also because my present day self is like really flighty and artsy, I might lean into something more serious from my past self.


Amelia Antrim  47:03  

Yeah, it's kind of where I was going to is like I, my present self is very passionate, but sort of like in an artistic way. Whereas I think that this is more passionate in like, a sort of systemic way.


Dora Dee Rogers  47:20  

So I'm going for my primary cause V and build my community into something thriving and stable. Which I feels like, Huh. I think of it the same way that there's something about like, I'm trying to turn it into words by it feels the same as you know, my primary cause of the president is save enough money take a trip to Europe after I graduate. Right. It's sort of about like, a massing something like achieving something. But it's true to outwards, right? It's like, a more mature like it also more vicious version of of that. More heroic, frankly, right.


Allison K. Cole  48:03  

Yeah, I like that. I think and I've I've put down for mine, that my parent causes to do all the boring things that keep us safe. So I expect that she like the spreadsheets, and makes plans and logistics and monitors the for the Reddit forums to see what's happening.


Amelia Antrim  48:23  

I do for my real job. Yeah, no, I like I am a regulatory coordinator. So like, my job is to make sure that we have done all of the paperwork, but I work in oncology research. So it's like I get to do all of the FDA filings and things to make sure that we can do the cancer research. Because all of these things have to happen before we can do the cool good stuff.


Allison K. Cole  48:45  

Yeah, and I think that that's yeah, that's that's her. That's her position.


Ryan Boelter  48:50  

It's good. So I went with, to vert to divert the flow of evil away from the mundane world. She spends more time as a hero than her alias.


Allison K. Cole  49:01  

That's dedication.


Amelia Antrim  49:03  

Yeah, I ended up saying I want to channel my passion to build a system that actually works for everyone.


Allison K. Cole  49:09  

I like this. I like this to do I know this seems like a good a good team. But now we hear we fit we figure out what their deepest regrets. And this is something that we can which is interesting, we can do with like, the hindsight because they have lived their entire lives by the time we've met them. So anything that has happened in their lives can be their deepest regret.


Dora Dee Rogers  49:33  

I'm gonna jump right in with that that thing about the thing about hot tragic boys is just like, it's a mislead to red herring, because I like hot tragic girls. So I just cleverly three people said, so I'm just gonna go with I wasn't there for her when she really needed me.


Allison K. Cole  49:57  

Yeah, there does that sometimes they'll rip Nice kissing girls with kissing boys just to appeal to the broader public oh i My deepest regret as a mistress of era was that I lost myself along the way. So I'm thinking it's it's dedicating too much time to maybe these like, monitoring all these people and all this they all of this like work and forgetting about herself while it happens.


Amelia Antrim  50:26  

I picked I trusted the wrong person.


Allison K. Cole  50:31  

That's a good one. It leaves itself open for a lot of fun drama. And like, the suspense.


Amelia Antrim  50:39  

I know. Brian's got to think really hard. Again there.


Ryan Boelter  50:43  

Okay. I spent too much time with heroics and could never put my all into into my relationship.


Allison K. Cole  50:52  

Oh, yes. Good. Great. That's a wonderful thing to have like memory flashbacks to. Beautiful. Oh, yeah. So now we do that pairing. There's no bio in the past world exactly the same way because we will get that through memory flashbacks. So it's at this point that we can pair ourselves. Like, see if there's any, any two mistresses that seem like they would pair well together and we encourage pairing outside of the original one that you did to be able to interact with different people. Can I can I make a suggestion? Absolutely. Can't be me because I've already I'm paired with water in present day. But considering the regret is not putting the all into a relationship. I feel like someone should be tied to that in some way.


Amelia Antrim  51:44  

I Ryan, I feel like mine can go with yours, too. Oh, yeah. Because I think that it's you know, like I trusted you to do this thing and you did not put everything into it.


Ryan Boelter  51:58  

Oh, that's good.


Allison K. Cole  52:00  

Oh, beautiful. And then I think the the I wasn't there for her when she really needed it and I lost myself I think those parallel together to


Dora Dee Rogers  52:10  

yeah that's your good.


Allison K. Cole  52:14  

When did I need you though? Or what was our relationship we don't have to come up with the exact one


Amelia Antrim  52:19  

I feel like it has something to do with like sort of all of the the work that you're doing of like keeping track of all of these things and you needing somebody to like yeah, see you as you and more than just like the person that gets stuff done. You need somebody you know like not be the person that's propping everybody else up but have somebody care about you as a person.


Dora Dee Rogers  52:44  

I think that we were I think we were best friends. And you know like the be it not that we like drifted apart over like a long period but just like I wasn't Yeah, we weren't we weren't there for each other at like some critical moments. Yeah, so


Allison K. Cole  53:01  

I'm gonna put that they were imported the Mr. sciverse was was my best friend. She was the only one who saw me for me. Or I will put she's the only one I felt Sami for me because I think that's important distinction.


Dora Dee Rogers  53:14  

I'm gonna say I was the only one who saw how much mr. Severe really took on. Yes, I


Ryan Boelter  53:19  

were did mine. I wasn't able to be there fully for the mistress of fire because I was to single minded with my heroics. And couldn't reconcile that with my powerful feelings for her.


Allison K. Cole  53:30  

Oh, yes. Also, you have two crushes on two different people in two different times. Very important. We need at least one character that has that in every game. Oh, so good. I think our other game is leading through with ripple because there's like a present day girlfriend at present a girlfriend who was a past life boyfriend and an ex and both anyway, it's complex. Yeah, it's quite a holiday


Amelia Antrim  53:56  

when you have multiple personalities. Yeah, it gets more complicated. Yes. Yeah, I worded mine is I really needed help and the mysteries of water didn't come through for me.


Unknown Speaker  54:07  



Allison K. Cole  54:08  

I love your victory phrase. I'm googling wind funds now that's so good


Dora Dee Rogers  54:14  

to be well I think everybody even had their victory phrase to be wanting to skip ahead and do that


Allison K. Cole  54:20  

my god yeah, okay, I'm just I'm going fast I'm gonna take your


Amelia Antrim  54:23  

time because we edited it out so


Allison K. Cole  54:28  

but yes, I'd love for everyone else to see see them while I look at this list of 30 Wind buns


Dora Dee Rogers  54:35  

all sorry we can go in opposite order this time. So Mr. Sub Earth's victory phrase is pick yourself up and dust yourself off.


Amelia Antrim  54:45  

I put my I'm gonna say this very carefully so that Ryan doesn't have to edit it. I just kicked your ash


Ryan Boelter  54:56  

mine is time to towel off


Allison K. Cole  55:00  

All right, and I've decided on, guess you're gone with the wind.


Dora Dee Rogers  55:05  

Oh, those are some all time greats. That's a good sleep. Excellent.


Ryan Boelter  55:13  



Allison K. Cole  55:14  

All right, and then we have the stats to go over. But you're obviously more powerful as an alchemist than you are as your normal. So, of course. So, as a powerful magical being, your stats are obviously higher, but they can also be in a different order. If they are think of why this might be. Maybe your past self grew up on a farm doing heavy lifting, but missed lots of classes. So you're stronger than your present self, but not as smart. In your alchemists forum, you started a D six, D eight, and a D 10. Your resolve is a D eight. If you look at the like PDF, when you actually print a form, there's a very clever paperclip method that when you flip the sheet your resolve remains persistent, which I was very proud of. less evident in the Excel spreadsheet. Yeah, I can jump in with my change stats. But the Mr. Severe I think is swapped, muddy and muddy mind and spirit, from the mundane from skies, mundane form. So mind is actually the Mr. severes highest, where spirit is the lowest, which is the opposite. And I think this is because she's dedicated so much of her time, to these very intricate, like, intellectually draining tasks. And has spent so much less time getting in touch with her like sense of self and charisma and yeah, willpower.


Amelia Antrim  56:45  

I had before had spirit and then mind and then body and so I switched mind and spirit. So I think this character is like, I don't want to say smarter, but like more like, on the critical thinking side a little bit. But I'm still fairly passionate, and then my body's the lowest still,


Allison K. Cole  57:07  

there's more than one way to kick ash.


Amelia Antrim  57:14  

I'm very proud of that one.


Ryan Boelter  57:15  

Yeah. So I went with the highest for mine, the D 10 is a spirit, because they're very strong willed. And they've they've got a strong personality about them, which is a little different. Whereas in my past, self spirit was a second highest. And then body is my second highest. Because she focuses so much on the heroics that she's got to maintain that conditioning. But still stronger willed and then body in this in this life, and then mind the lowest because in this instance she she is kind of like this super single minded individual that misses some things. And isn't as you know, present in that regard.


Allison K. Cole  58:13  

Yeah, I love it. It's so good.


Dora Dee Rogers  58:16  

And I I kept the same sort of spread. So I highest spirit at 10 Middle body, and then lowest mind. Because I think that her definitely expresses itself very differently. Because I think rather than it means sort of, like I can endure it, I can grind through this. It's more sort of like, I am a leader. I'm tied to my community. I'm very, very rooted. Um, yeah. So it's she she it's kind of the same energy, but she you know, she wears it, like inhabits it very differently.


Amelia Antrim  58:51  

Yeah, I like that.


Allison K. Cole  58:54  

Now it is time for spell.


Amelia Antrim  58:57  



Allison K. Cole  58:57  

so this is like I was talking about earlier. This is a thing where we like, we had an intricate and elaborate theory, mechanical combat system. And we're like, is this expressing what magical girls are? And we're like, no, so we just replaced it with the thing that is the most fun for us. And I will go into it with you. I'm going to read the gist of it and then share on wrote a guide and we'll see we don't have to wonder the full detail. It's really good for first time or inexperienced players because it gives like very structured ways that you can build spells, but we'll see like what we want to do. But spells, Alchemy can create almost any effect. You will start with one spell and that's what we'll be building today. Although you will learn more as you're a memory returns. Each spell represents an aspect of your element that you have mastered and that you have control over. Mechanically whatever you describe will have the same level of power. So a spell that summons a tornado will give you the same bonus in combat as a spell that softly whispers poetry What is most important is that you must choose something flexible and fun, create something that you would enjoy finding multiple uses for. And that will be exciting to describe interacting with the world. So we kind of the touchstone we use for this is to talk about, like bending from Avatar, if you've seen that, but if not, it's a control, like you start with control of maybe water and then you get control of blood because blood has water in it, right? Yeah. So those are the ways that you can progress. And it's less like a sailor moon attack, because those are very stark, the same stock footage every single episode, which we love, but we essentially want you to like have the chance to describe a new fun way that Sailor Jupiter would use lightning every time. Alright. So also, to use your spell, you must dramatically shout it. That seems to be a reoccurring theme in this game. So you have to name your spell, and then describe what part of the element your Alchemist has has mastered using it. So the example if you wanted to the example. De


Dora Dee Rogers  1:01:07  

Sure. Yeah, so naughty my character from our current play test as ministers of air. And if she gets really angry at somebody, she'll break out her second level spell sky rage.


Allison K. Cole  1:01:25  

And what do you have? What have you mastered with it?


Dora Dee Rogers  1:01:27  

Oh, it's control. Control of lightning. So at so she, she mostly uses it to shoot lightning bolts and people, although she's come out with a few, a few other uses, like sort of traveling like lightning places.


Allison K. Cole  1:01:44  

And so other things like for Earth, you could control might or growing things or living plants or dust? We can Yes. So if you have ideas, we can go with them. If not, I can go into like different ways to create a spell. And also schrom did some great tests on like seeing if your spell will be fun, essentially. So what are we feeling? Are people all right, I'm gonna read you a tiny bit of how to make a spell because I think it will be. it'll inspire. Yes, please.


Amelia Antrim  1:02:23  

I'm having trouble coming up with like, I always feel like sometimes when like, things are really broad, like you can do anything. I'm like, I don't. What?


Allison K. Cole  1:02:33  

No, that's why we're like, when we first did it, we're like, Oh, my goodness. This is very broad. And some people right away know what they want to do. But yeah, we wanted someone who also has really, who has really good background with like narrative spells. So we'll start with some tips. A spell is conceptually narrow, something like control Earth is too broad. Because you want your spell to have creative constraints on you. You want to feel clever every time you use it. An example I use like, this is a Dungeons and Dragons example. But one time we made a create a character. Who was I wouldn't call this min maxing. But like I just built the character to be able to summon as many ponies at once as possible. Yeah, like that. And then the whole game was just me being like, Oh, I don't need to tech trap. I have 10 ponies, and just like scent. And ponies are like, Oh, what if I summoned the pony 10 feet in the air and had a drop on them. So like, for me that was fun and creative.


Amelia Antrim  1:03:31  

Finding ways to use it too. Because it's fun. You're like, Well, can I like fit this in here?


Allison K. Cole  1:03:37  

It was 64 I could summon I think 64 ponies at once.


Amelia Antrim  1:03:40  

So God has rolled like that, like I played with somebody too. That was like a trick. Remember what she could summon I think it was like owls or something and like, Oh, no as badgers. And it was like we got to the point where she could summon like 80 Badgers, and we're like, why would you ever need that many?


Allison K. Cole  1:03:57  

Exactly. Like I've literally could do nothing else like zero other things. But that's like kind of an example I use. Like, you'll be using this one thing for the first part of the season. So make it fun. Mastery of sand is more interesting because it doesn't apply to every type of Earth and create certain images. Arms of Earth could even be more interesting. It creates arms made of mud, something that everyone can picture, and a constraint that helps you tell the story. So you want to think of things that are conceptually creatively challenging, but practically broad. So while the concept of a spell should be specific, the best spells are broadly applicable arms of Earth might create arms of mud. Those can do so many things. Punch a baddie, statue and Ally away from danger. carry something heavy. For instance, a spell like Emily wood is not likely to contribute to the story unless all you're planning to do is set wooden things on fire, which could be a basis for a character if you want, but going in, going in knowing that is important. And then the last thing the spelling says alchemy, which might be obvious. But more generally, a spell that replicates something your character could do easily without alchemy is probably not the most interesting. So in present day, candlelight is probably a pretty trivial spell considering the state of technology. And we all have cell phones that can make light. So you want it to do something interesting. And then there are two ways you can do like suggested ways for building a spell. The construct method is simple. And if you're less experienced with role playing, it might be the easiest one to start with. You start by picking a narrow subtype of that element. Don't bother being granular. This isn't a chemistry test, like magma could be both fire or earth. Lightning could be the domain of air or fire could be argued. And then there's some examples here that you can look through. And then after that, pick an interesting shape that you can manifest the element as there's a list tentacles, hands, gauntlets, whips, name your spell using the shape and element and add some flair. For example, pleasing whips of magma, Arctic shield, the wall of the seven Surly and winds, and then you have a spill. So you can conjure up constructs of that shape made of your elemental subtype and think about the different ways you can use it. For example, whips can attack but graphs bend defensively toss things, shields can defend obscure vision and bear loads. And I think they can also be thrown pretty effectively.


Amelia Antrim  1:06:24  

I think Captain America showed us that.


Allison K. Cole  1:06:27  

I K. True fact, my day job is actually working on a Marvel video game. And I have only ever seen one Marvel movie.


Amelia Antrim  1:06:35  

So like, that's where I'm at. I think you've seen one. You've seen them all.


Allison K. Cole  1:06:40  

I told him, them that during the interview process, and they were okay with it.


Amelia Antrim  1:06:44  

Yeah. Hired you anyway, I have a question. If you can help me like workshop? Oh, for sure. I want to do something with like, I like the name, like, fires of passion or something like that. I want the ability to like, like, convince people or like get help, or some of that, like, you know what I mean? Like, I think that that's, that's where my brain is. So that's how did you read the next section? No.


Allison K. Cole  1:07:14  

They used to actually use the passion as an example. Oh, okay. I was like, oh, did you skip ahead? No. So


Amelia Antrim  1:07:22  

yeah, that is just to like, be a politician and also fire.


Allison K. Cole  1:07:26  

No, that's amazing. So there's the examples for passion are that you can like rouse a crowd, or distract a guard or sue the emotions of hysterical victim. So, yeah, you can think about what form it takes. And you could be like flames of passion could be in a spell that manipulates emotion through flames. That could be a great spell.


Amelia Antrim  1:07:49  

I think I want it to look like, like people's hearts are like you can like see them. Oh, like almost Yeah, heat it up. You know, that's perfect. Yeah, so good.


Allison K. Cole  1:08:00  

So mechanically, I'll just touch briefly what spells do is the other lower someone's resolved to be in the scene. And like we said, that can be done emotionally or physically. So you could physically burn their heart with the spell, or you could make them like, you know, give up, they're willing to fight against you that way. And the other thing they can do is inflict conditions. So you could make someone like question their question their beliefs as a condition on them, which then will make it easier for anyone else to lower their resolve. And I think that spell could do both of those.


Amelia Antrim  1:08:37  

I'm gonna write that. But I would,


Allison K. Cole  1:08:39  

I would keep it vague enough, like, manipulate emotions, so that you can use it in different contexts.


Ryan Boelter  1:08:45  

So so I named my spell Aquarius amplification. And I have mastered the ability to infuse an individual with water to grant magical abilities or greatly enhance existing abilities. So I could make myself or somebody else fly, I could make somebody super strong. I could make somebody's healing, natural healing, enhance to heal wounds, that sort of thing.


Dora Dee Rogers  1:09:13  

Extremely good. I have gone with loss of divine beauty. And it is I sort of mentioned before she's gonna have a very like, feminine. Like, row like specifically like flower focused, you know, for him, it's such second get that and so she's her. She's specifically has mastery of roses so she can sort of picture roses a period growing out of the ground for being shapes like trapping people, entangling people, etc. Oh, nice.


Amelia Antrim  1:09:47  

Like you said Bella and ANCHONDO


Allison K. Cole  1:09:50  

you're absolutely my spell is whispers of the songbird and it can go pretty basic, but it's something is a wind shaped bird, or not a wind shaped bird a bird shaped wind is trying to pitch a wind shaped bird for a second. But it is a gust just a physical manifestation of wind and kind of a solid wing or bird shape. Perfect. So that is the spell. And I think with that we have our words worlds built, and our characters built.


Ryan Boelter  1:10:28  

Oh, wow.


Amelia Antrim  1:10:29  

Oh my gosh.


Allison K. Cole  1:10:31  

And we well, almost done. Yeah. Last thing is


Ryan Boelter  1:10:35  

some exciting stuff coming up.


Allison K. Cole  1:10:37  

We have to build our team. So we, this is less good in the Excel spreadsheet, we kind of pasted the images in here. So one thing that's important, and if we were playing the season, you would have to describe your individual outfit in detail. The first time you transform, but we have to kind of decide our costume, right? Your team has some unifying thematic elements on their magical outfits. How else would people know you're a team? Take time to talk about them? Maybe you all have elaborate epaulets, steampunk corsets or AR goggles, whatever it is, it helps reinforce who you are as a team. So do we have any little nice little mannequin there? We couldn't we could draw it on in the in the physical world, but we can just take some notes.


Dora Dee Rogers  1:11:29  

Do you want to lead into the superhero direction?


Ryan Boelter  1:11:33  

I like the superhero aspect of it like like if we all had capes or is


Amelia Antrim  1:11:41  

something okay? Not okay. Okay.


Dora Dee Rogers  1:11:46  

Girls never have to worry about capes.


Allison K. Cole  1:11:48  

I'm pro hooded cape for me. I'm always


Ryan Boelter  1:11:51  

voted. That sounds easy. Oh,


Amelia Antrim  1:11:54  

I really liked that. Like different


Ryan Boelter  1:11:56  

colors for each of us.


Allison K. Cole  1:11:57  

Oh, yeah. It hits Magical Girl and superhero like put down a superhero. Put up kind of get a fantasy Magical Girl bug. Absolutely.


Amelia Antrim  1:12:07  

I feel like I picture the rest of my outfit. That was like, power suit.


Dora Dee Rogers  1:12:12  

Oh, yeah.


Amelia Antrim  1:12:16  

Now the question is, are we going pants or pencil skirt?


Dora Dee Rogers  1:12:19  

I'm definitely going to go like I've just have like a full on, like, ball gown. Just like yeah, they got almost like a like a bridesmaid's dress or something?


Amelia Antrim  1:12:31  

I like the idea that we all have like, different versions of this, like feminine standard, you know, so like, I feel like I would go with like, yeah, like pencil skirt buttoned down. You know, like business woman. Yeah, but like still feminine. Yeah.


Ryan Boelter  1:12:46  

It's a hooded cape. Yeah. hooded cape. Yeah. Oh, I would have something flowy something that like, that's got like a, like a train or something that like flows in in tune with my cape. Yes. Well, so it's like, my my dress constantly looks like it's underwater.


Amelia Antrim  1:13:06  

I feel like yours has like an iridescent sheen to it. Yeah, so like a percent of like,


Ryan Boelter  1:13:12  

yeah, yeah. The very, very mermaid aesthetic,


Dora Dee Rogers  1:13:15  

right. There's a moment at the end of the Princess Bride where she dropped. Like jumps down to like, her dress is just like sort of at the rally.


Amelia Antrim  1:13:26  

Yeah. Oh, shoot. I just had an idea for air to where did it go? I feel like yours is like a really cute like sundress.


Allison K. Cole  1:13:35  

Oh, nice. I was like, I was feeling what I like to TSD by calling librarian chic, which is usually like a floral dress and then a cardigan. Ya know? Like,


Amelia Antrim  1:13:47  

yes. Like cute summer picnic.


Allison K. Cole  1:13:50  

Yeah. Beautiful. And then we have oh my gosh, I


Amelia Antrim  1:13:53  

love these so much.


Dora Dee Rogers  1:13:57  

It's true, too. I like your observation that it's like, it's like four different four very different like femininities coming at you.


Amelia Antrim  1:14:05  

Yeah, it's like they're all like, stereotypical. Yeah. You know,


Allison K. Cole  1:14:09  

but and people noticed this first, first by the capes. Secondly, they're like, Ah, I see your individual approaches. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Beautiful. Second, are magical mascot. So this is someone in your world who knows more about the past world and is on your side. They might leave you mysterious messages in a video game, or even just overtly show up and be a part of your life. Like it'd be a magical fairy attacking cat or a sentient AI designed as a local shopkeeper. Whatever form they take. They definitely know some things you don't. So


Amelia Antrim  1:14:48  

this, this is my responsible animal.


Allison K. Cole  1:14:51  

Yeah, you're like there's a responsible animal. And the GM guide there is a specific episode dedicated to meeting and learning about The magical mascot so


Ryan Boelter  1:15:02  

what? Can they pass it? Pass it it's it's one of our pets and let's see


Amelia Antrim  1:15:13  

what kind of pet do you have in the future though because we talked about like our mascot not being an animal or something you know like what is Oh what is that?


Allison K. Cole  1:15:21  

Yeah cuz all the all the animals we know now don't exist, but


Dora Dee Rogers  1:15:26  

in fits of what is it's like a robot dog or a robot cat that like an AI. An AI has


Amelia Antrim  1:15:34  

a ghost in it.


Ryan Boelter  1:15:35  

Yeah. Like the original ghosts the OG? Yeah.


Amelia Antrim  1:15:39  

I said ghosts of like someone who was on our superhero team. Yeah.


Dora Dee Rogers  1:15:44  

It was like our art


Amelia Antrim  1:15:47  

or our wiring here it was. Yeah, yes.


Allison K. Cole  1:15:50  

No, this is perfect. If I was jamming this game, I'd be like, Why yes. And then I would look mysterious and be like, writing in the mistress of spirits character sheet right now. Like, taking notes. Yes, I like that it was. And maybe we like maybe our pet has always known but we couldn't hear or communicate with it until our magic started reawakening in some way. Yeah. Oh, this is good, though. My summary is robot pet with Ghost in it


Amelia Antrim  1:16:24  

what what pet would be like associated with like the spirit element like, because I know


Allison K. Cole  1:16:31  

that word is right. That's why we have the spirit element be the outer scabs you're like, Oh, that's a Pluto they're they're just the weird element that no one would like have people have trouble making concrete spells


Dora Dee Rogers  1:16:42  

about I like I actually really like bird though. image a little like robot robot parrot.


Amelia Antrim  1:16:51  

Funny for some reason on little bunny. feel right?


Allison K. Cole  1:16:56  

Mess I really liked about Knight and gills like a golden Knight and Gilson into a king. I can't remember it though. I really liked the idea of a knight and go. I like


Ryan Boelter  1:17:05  

what about it? Robot? What if it transforms between a bunny and a bird? Oh, so like we could see the bird flying in transforms into a bunny when it lands? Or something like


Dora Dee Rogers  1:17:18  

that? Yeah, no, I like that a lot. Oh, so


Allison K. Cole  1:17:20  

handscraped is the Hans Christian Andersen story. Sorry, about a better robot. Nightingale does know another snub to stylets Then my cultural touchpoint doesn't really matter does.


Amelia Antrim  1:17:33  

One of our listeners is like, Yes, I know exactly what it is. You should get a chance robot pet with Ghost in it. Love it.


Allison K. Cole  1:17:45  

Okay. I can change between, I think I think a robot could change forms. What if it changes forms between like animals of the past world? So like


Ryan Boelter  1:17:59  

it Oh, yeah. Like, I can do more than that. But like, Yeah, I like that. It it prefers probably bunny and Nightingale or something with us. You just


Dora Dee Rogers  1:18:08  

using something be right. Like it's


Amelia Antrim  1:18:09  

actually we wear the same outfits in every episode. It can be any animal it wants, but it only changes in like special episodes. Yeah. So that we don't have to do so much animation or Yeah, I


Dora Dee Rogers  1:18:20  

know. It's so expensive every time.


Ryan Boelter  1:18:24  

And I love that our magical companion animal. It has its own transformation sequences.


Amelia Antrim  1:18:31  

Yes. Oh, yeah.


Allison K. Cole  1:18:33  

I love that. Yeah, one of the things we asked in the first episode, episode of a campaign is, are you in the dub or the sub? That's what we ask. And we do make reference to things like and to cut animation budget. We need a clip, we need a clip show here. Oh, absolutely. Perfect. And then this is something we won't design. But we'll let you know it would happen and advancement is there as a final spell. You confronted the evil in the past world. However it happened, it came at great cost to your team. Later in the season, you will need to describe your final spell that all Alchemist verses have to work together to complete what it looks like and the cost you must pay to cast it. So that's the last thing on the team sheet. Is there is one great final spell that will come at a cost to


Ryan Boelter  1:19:25  

you. Well, you know, we're gonna have to do that in the fanfic portion of our discussion.


Amelia Antrim  1:19:29  

Yes, that's true when we get there. I think that's the perfect time to discuss. Yeah, what that looks like.


Allison K. Cole  1:19:38  

And that's there are memories will again talk about that, like you wouldn't talk about advancements, but they get written on this character sheet. And there are special memories that you get as individuals are the their memories you get as individuals and then once an episode, there is a flashback trigger that your whole team has together. And so those memories that you have together would go on your team character sheet. And once you have a memory, you can access it when you're not no longer transform. So these are the things that you remember about your past world. Very cool. Yeah, you have two characters each and two worlds. Around applause,


Amelia Antrim  1:20:16  

we did it. Beautifully did it. And I honestly have to say that like it for how much we came up with and how much we designed like, this was pretty quick and pretty smooth. Like, you know, it mean, having to come up with all of that stuff could potentially take a long time, but it feels like this was quick and easy. And it flowed. Well.


Ryan Boelter  1:20:37  



Allison K. Cole  1:20:38  

Yeah, I think I mean, we have experts. So that helps. Well, I


Amelia Antrim  1:20:42  

I wonder too, like now I would really love to at some point, like, do it the other way around and see, like, if it's right that same way. I liked it this way, especially talking about like the future. And then how does 2020 affect what we do later on? Yeah, this was good. This was very good. Oh, good stuff. I love what we have.


Allison K. Cole  1:21:04  

There's a lot I love but I think the weird, retro mishmash, diner millennial


Amelia Antrim  1:21:09  

times, I have to say I really was not sure about that. Because I'm like, I don't know if I really want to like play in the future or whatever. But like, I love where we landed. I


Unknown Speaker  1:21:18  

really do Absolutely. Millennial, millennials.


Amelia Antrim  1:21:27  

Thank you both so much for doing this with us. This was like, Oh, it was so good. And Ryan was like, He's gonna be smiling for like a week after what we just said, like, I can see his eyes just like shining.


Ryan Boelter  1:21:39  

You're haunted, because that'll not be able to play. No,


Amelia Antrim  1:21:43  

no, no.


Allison K. Cole  1:21:45  

I just want to say that looking at your face warms my heart and I'm sure doors to as like designers. Yeah. Really lovely to find the people who love the exact same things that you are trying to make and also love.


Amelia Antrim  1:21:57  

Absolutely. And if you were an animator, he would have like, the little twinkles in


Dora Dee Rogers  1:22:04  

any any character creation process. You know, it's not unique to this, this game where you are setting up those like relationships. It always makes me be like, but are we good? Let's play it now.


Amelia Antrim  1:22:16  

Right, right. We have such a problem on this show to be like, Oh man, why did we do this to ourselves? Like, this was a good idea. In this case. I


Dora Dee Rogers  1:22:26  

also think our cost sensors, it seems like a real waste.


Amelia Antrim  1:22:30  

No, I know we won't get to describe that. Like I'm gonna have to go make a Pinterest board for this now. Do you want to just remind everybody where they can find you and where they can find this game in. Now, tomorrow, by the time this comes out? Tell us how to get it.


Allison K. Cole  1:22:50  

All right. Yes, so you can find the game. The most important thing on Kickstarter, alchemist trusses, which you can check how to spell but it's alchemy and mistresses together in one word. And you can find me at Alison K cool on Twitter, or at soft chaos dot games on on the internet.


Dora Dee Rogers  1:23:11  

And you can find me on Twitter at Dora D underscore or see some other games that I've made at D


Ryan Boelter  1:23:24  

Wonderful. Well, thank you again, this has been an absolute joy. And I can't wait to discuss this. Thank you for everybody listening. Please join us on the next episode for our discussion black and absolutely check out this Kickstarter. If you're listening when this releases because Goodness gracious. Good. This This sounds amazing. Yes. Call to


Amelia Antrim  1:23:52  

like, Ryan, Ryan, you can hear your smile in these episodes. Like if it was ever possible to hear someone smile. It would be in this series. Like, I have that one picture that I keep. I keep hearing places because you just like I like to look like a kid on Christmas. It's amazing.


Ryan Boelter  1:24:15  

Oh, yeah, that picture was right. As we're diving into character creation. We were We were just about to start making people and I was so ready.


Amelia Antrim  1:24:24  

Yeah, it was Yeah. It was great. This game was awesome. And I'm so glad that we got a chance to cover it before the Kickstarter so that people can hear about it. Because it is so much better than the description that they give not like No, no shade to Allison and Dora and the great job they're doing but like there's no way that they could encompass this in the pitch. So I'm really glad we got a chance to look at it and share it with people because it's so good. It's so good.


Ryan Boelter  1:24:50  

It's so good. Yeah, and like everything about it like this episode we got into the world building of the past and the present and, and our millennial time. I'm so shenanigans.


Amelia Antrim  1:25:02  

keep forgetting about that.


Ryan Boelter  1:25:05  

I loved it so much. And like, this is exactly the type of thing I would love to play with, with all that mysterious backstory to unravel, like as you play, and like, seeing how that would play out in real time would be so fascinating.


Amelia Antrim  1:25:21  

Absolutely. Check out the game on Kickstarter, if you've loved what you're hearing. If you are listening to this on the date comes out the Kickstarter launches tomorrow on June 14, you can check the show notes for a link. But please don't miss this one. It's so Absolutely, absolutely.


Ryan Boelter  1:25:39  

Also head on over to youtube dot character creation and give our channel a subscribe to help us out in visibility. And they get updates on our episode releases as well as our episode promos. And now Amelia created some phenomenal art for each of the later series that we have up in there so far. And we're working backwards in the catalog made everything up there. But that takes a lot of time. Amelia, you need to re listen to all those episodes, to get the themes. And we


Amelia Antrim  1:26:13  

have so many episodes, we have so many. Like I could I could do it without listening to them because they were recent enough or like, you know, I kind of knew what we were what we were going for, or I had character sheets that I could go off of or something like that. Um, but now we're at the point where it's like, okay, these were a year ago, I started a blender go past the point now because I can hear it when I'm like, Oh, I broke my hand. And like I had my hand surgery like so we're all past that. Which means it's over a year ago now at this point. Yeah. Okay, whatever. Not gonna happen. Remember breakfast?


Ryan Boelter  1:26:53  

Oh, you're getting some great, some great art out of it.


Amelia Antrim  1:26:56  

I'm having a lot of fun with it. It's really it's stretching a creative muscle that I haven't gotten to use in a while. You know, I keep saying like, I'm not a graphic designer. I'm not, you know. So like, these are for funsies. So anybody who's like looking at them and like being judgey? You know, I get it. My color choices are maybe questionable. But Hi, I'm having fun. And I really honestly think that's all that matters. And absolutely on a YouTube page. It definitely looks better than like just a whole pile of our logo. It makes it a little more engaging and interesting. So


Ryan Boelter  1:27:25  

I agree. Plus, every single one so far has been directly related to the episodes. So there's like some nice little easter eggs in there. Yeah,


Amelia Antrim  1:27:35  

they've been. I've been trying to make them about our show, not just about the game. Yeah. Like you're trying to match like trying to do both, you know, so that yeah, what game it is. But yeah, love each


Ryan Boelter  1:27:47  

other. So good. But I can't wait to see what else you come up with. And hopefully we'll be able to have a complete. What is that? A discography? I don't know what that's called for podcasts?


Amelia Antrim  1:27:59  

Yeah, I don't know. I think that's enough, right? Yeah.


Ryan Boelter  1:28:03  

So hopefully we'll have that sometime soon. But just keep an eye out for that. Subscribe, and Like and Subscribe. Yeah, like, I mean, we're in that we're in that area now. All right.


Amelia Antrim  1:28:17  

Next up, check out our new Patreon. We are offering that at creation cast. We have quite a bit in there already. For all of the levels of support, you can get bonus outtakes at the $1 level at $5 level, you can get bonus episodes and early release episodes. The next episode in the series is already in there. So like if you can't wait, I got great news for you. There's all kinds of stuff going on there. Those episodes in there don't have the cold open yet, because we don't have haven't done them yet.


Ryan Boelter  1:28:54  

They just get in there as soon as I'm done editing. So I added that my throw on the music. I throw on the credits and goes right.


Amelia Antrim  1:29:03  

Yeah. So yeah, it's literally as soon as Ryan's done, there'll be up so


Ryan Boelter  1:29:11  

we also have a bunch of other rewards, including personal thank you cards, special discord channels, as well as shout outs on the podcast. So we would like to thank our patrons personally, before we head into the review, you are all helping make this show possible. And we are incredibly thankful for your continued support.


Amelia Antrim  1:29:32  

Lieutenant our first patron, thank you


Ryan Boelter  1:29:36  

previous guests to the show, David tag grant a source. Thank you so much.


Amelia Antrim  1:29:43  

And Eric bonce, thank you for your support.


Ryan Boelter  1:29:47  

And thank you to any future patrons that we don't know about as the recording of this call to action. Again, if you want to join this list and help us out, head on over to slash Character Creation Cast and check us out.


Amelia Antrim  1:30:03  

If you are unable to support us financially but still want to help us out, we totally get it. You can leave reviews on Apple podcasts, pod chaser Facebook or podcast addict. Those are the places that we can easily see. So find somewhere else that you can leave a review. Let us know we will go find it, we will read it. For now, this is the last one we have in our pocket. But it comes from coyote on podcast addict, a very cool way to discover RPGs with the hosts and their guests creating characters for various games. The games use are varied and you'll probably find ones that interests you. The tone is quite humorous and makes listening very pleasant. Thank you so much for such we hope that it's enjoyable for people. I think that's one of my favorite things about making this show is like we're having fun and I hope that that comes through.


Ryan Boelter  1:30:53  

Yeah, and I like that we come across as pleasant. Yeah,


Amelia Antrim  1:30:57  

yeah, I always say that. I like that you think that about me?


Ryan Boelter  1:31:03  

Well, that's all we have for this week's episode. Join us next week for the finale to this glorious series, where we discuss the process and dive into some absolutely phenomenal. So good. Until then, take care everyone. Stay safe, drink some water, take some breaths, relax your shoulders, it'll be okay. And keep making those amazing people. We'll see you next time.


Ryan Boelter  1:31:49  

Character Creation Cast is a production of the oneshot Podcast Network and can be found online at www dot character creation until the website to get more information on our hosts, the show and even our press kit. Character Creation Cast can also be found on twitter at creation cast or ON OUR DISCORD SERVER at discord dot character creation I one of your hosts Ryan boelter and I can be found on twitter at Lord Neptune or online at Lord Our other hosts Amelia Antrim can be found on twitter at ginger reckoning. Music for this episode is used with a Creative Commons license, or with permission from the podcast the originator from further information can be found within the show notes. Our main theme music is hero remix by Steve combs and is used with a Creative Commons license. This podcast is owned by us under Creative Commons. This episode was edited by Ryan boelter. Further information for the game systems using today's guests can also be found in the show notes. If you'd like to support our show, find us on Patreon. Get access to bonus episode, extra outtakes and much more at creation cast. Thanks for joining us. And remember, we find the best part of any role playing game is character creation. So go out there and create some amazing people. We'll see you next time.


Amelia Antrim  1:33:35  

Now we got to read some show blurbs show blurbs. Show show blurbs.


Ryan Boelter  1:33:43  

Character Creation Cast is hosted by the One Shot Podcast Network. If you enjoyed our show, visit one shot where you will find other great shows like campaign


Amelia Antrim  1:33:55  

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